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2 CommentsNiko Kotsatos, Yesterday 18:06
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26 CommentsCatalan Benaros, Thu 02:06
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Recent Comments
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Rob re: "were to luff sharply and hit the blue boat, the blue boat would protest under rule 16.1 and quite probably win in the protest room"
That's what I'm trying to say (in my typical awkward way) .. that a luff up breaking 16.1 would not be exonerated based upon Red's MR rights.
I'm not saying that Red is not entitled to MR .. she is. I'm arguing (for the sake of the argument ... wiling to be convinced otherwise) that MR doesn't include luffing to HTW when that luff is not a component of a path to the mark that exists with MR.
If I was to argue against that point I might argue the following ..
If Red luffs HTW and Blue passed HTW first , then when Red follows .. she will be the KC boat even if they are both tacking the same time, but Red's MR will change over from 18.2(a)(1) to 18.2(c) .. now being the windward/inside boat. In that way, there is a feasible path that Red is never not entitled to MR as she tacks for the mark.
That path though depends upon Blue passing HTW first.
Another argument against might be geometric. Any time Red is in the 6-9 quad, when she luffs HTW she's shortening her distance to the mark (hypotenuse vs sine). So that's "closer to" as in sailing past at some distance vs "to" the mark.Angelo Guarino Today 00:16 -
Niko .. let me get this straight. The class in question has a jib boom (self-tacking setup). What we are asking to do is not attach anything to the sail .. but to attach to the jib-boom at some location along the jib-boom to hold it out down-wind?
I know several boats that do that with a hydraulic piston that they buy at an auto parts store (same piston that holds open your hatchback. The anchor one side of the piston on the centerline of the bow and the other somewhere along the jib-boom. It does a nice job and if sized and installed correctly ... it doesn't put up a fight when tacking or gybing to get the boom across.Angelo Guarino Yesterday 21:51 -
Robert "My review of RRS 86.1(a) indicates no issues with this change."
An argument against that assertion might be that 86.1(a) forbids changes to rules of an appendix that changes Part 2 and Def's and that doing what you suggest .. in effect ... changes those Appx-rules by inserting a "however-clause" exception and then inserts the standard language.Angelo Guarino 26-Jun-26 11:34 -
What I am saying is that it is more complicated than simply having a gravitational force component parallel to the local surface of the water. Surfing, as a general phenomena, is defined and understood. Where it isn't defined is in the RRS. Unfortunately, this forum is not the place for the very long and very deep dive explaining the physics of surging, surfing, and planing. But to me, the take away is that we need to understand the difference between surging, planing, and surfing and when each of these is possible to be able to properly interpret and apply RRS 42.John Christman 26-Jun-18 01:16
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Wow Paul ... that must have been a lot of work (and moving forward as the working out the kinks phase begins).
Congratulations!
AngAngelo Guarino 26-Jun-11 21:03