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  • Today 20:36
  • I think here we get into an interesting philosophical point.  Are we evaluating boats based on SPEED or are we evaluating them based on OUTMANEUVERING their competitors strategically?  The winning boat may have given up course time to cover their competition.  A good move in that division even if it cost some time.
    Yesterday 12:16
  • ..Michael,  A change of mind can always be blamed on "we learned something new," rather than "oopsie!"

     A protest committee should always have enough spine to admit it may have been wrong, rather than looking for an excuse like ' new evidence '.
    Fri 20:44
  • Eric, what John A is saying in 3 pictures ..

    Scenario #1 - No rule broken. 
    Yellow is not caused to alter course during Red's tack and is not forced above close-hauled course after Red passes HTW. Red initially gave Yellow room to keep clear when Red fell to a close-hauled course and gained ROW, therefore Red did not break RRS 15.

    Scenario #2 - Yellow breaks RRS 11. 
    Cyan completes her tack without Yellow altering course and Cyan initially gives Yellow room to keep clear (no RRS 15 breach).  Yellow does not owe Cyan mark-room, but she must keep clear of Cyan under RRS 11.  Yellow, forcing Cyan to leeward, did not keeping-clear of Cyan, and broke RRS 11.

    Scenario #3 - Purple breaks both RRS 18.3 and RRS 13. 
    Yellow must alter course while Purple was required to keep clear under RRS 13, therefore Purple breaks 13. The incident occurs before Purple obtains ROW, therefore RRS 15 did not apply at that time. Yellow is also forced to sail above close-hauled after Purple passes HTW from port to starboard inside the zone, thus Purple also breaks RRS 18.3.

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    Fri 16:26
  • I do suspect you are, well, sailing to the wrong mark gentlemen. I freely admit, having umpired just one match race event in my life, I am in no position to offer informed opinion, but sometimes a new pair of eyes… 

    I submit that if teams sail to the wrong mark often enough that an amelioration is frequently included in SIs, then there is a fundamental problem in race management. 

    I take the point that “Part of the game is to pay attention to the start signals”, but I submit it's not an important part. Surely the object of the exercise is for two teams to have a fair contest racing their sailboats, and if one sails for the wrong mark there is no real contest, while if both sail for the wrong mark the contest is completely in vain. 

    So should you be setting your minds to the fundamental problem? After all, if no-one gets it wrong, everyone will have a better day on the water, and isn't that the point? 


    Wed 22:13

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