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  • What is the difference between alleged and actual breaches of RRS?
    Baptiste Verniest,

    thank you for the accurate and descriptive answer.

    Sat 16:03
  • Protest Form - "Decision" tick box
    To answer Mike's last note, there has to be a valid protest and that means the form has to identify 'the incident'. I don't think the 'incident' can be that a boat didn't do her turns properly - it has got to be that she did something that might have broken a rule, such as she was on port and didn't keep clear of your boat on starboard. If that's not there, the protest is invalid and that can't be put right once the protest is put in. Of course a new protest could be put in late and the committee could extend the time 'if there is good reason to do so' but I don't think that failing to describe any incident is a good reason.

    Of course it's not the end of the world if the protest fails, get out and beat the b.......d in the next race!

    David
    Fri 09:50
  • Rule 13 - "astern" vs "clear astern"
    Then there is the possibility that two boats, 'Ahead' and 'Behind'
    are tacking simultaneously, but a third boat overlaps them both
    such that 'Behind' is astern, but not Clear Astern, of 'Ahead'
    (by reverse osmosis) because now they are Overlapped
    Thu 08:03
  • About the rule 18.3

    I thought this was about RRS 18.3?

    In the RRS 18.3 is words "rule 18.2"
    Thu 06:54
  • 44.2, Taking a Penalty as soon as .......
    John, first I don't have an issue at all with what you wrote above. I think it's comprehensive and tells the complete story. That said, you and I did go through a redlining exercise a while back in another thread ... removing and pruning FF's that though might add to completeness of the story, were not strictly needed. I've got a devilish leprechaun sitting on my shoulder whispering in my ear saying that FF's 1 and 2 are talking about a separate incident not described in the protest as presented by the OP.

    In that spirit, taking what you wrote and based on OP's initial conditions, could this fly?

    Facts Found
    1. The protesting boat observed what she believed to be a breach of a rule of Part 2.
    2. The protesting boat did not hail 'protest' [and display a red flag[ at the first red flag at the first reasonable opportunity after that incident.
    3. The protestsing boat observed the protestee for some condiderable time after the alleged breach an did not observed the protestee to take a penalty, but not in accordance with rule 44.
    4. The protesting boat then hailed 'protest' [and displayed a red flag]. (Note: This will already be indicated in the validity section, so this is redundant).

    Conclusions
    A. The protest alleging a breach of rule 44 is valid. (Note: This also will already be indicated in the validity section, so this is also redundant).
    B. There is no valid protest in respect of any breach of a Part 2 rule
    C. The protestee's failure to take a proper and timely Two-Turns Penalty broke no rule. It meant only that she failed to take a penalty. Since the a No right-of-way incident was not the incident described in the protest, therefore the protestee could not be penalized for any other incident (US Appeal 46).

    Clean Version (close to where Mike was heading) ,,,,

    FF:
    1) The protestsing boat observed the protestee take a penalty, but not in accordance with rule 44.

    Conclusion:
    A) The protestee's failure to take a proper and timely Two-Turns Penalty broke no rule. It meant only that she failed to take a penalty. No right-of-way incident was described in the protest, therefore the protestee could not be penalized for any other incident (US Appeal 46).
    Thu 03:57