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  Vince Harris Yesterday 22:26
• Language for disallowing bowsprit extension until a boat is at a mark
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  Jim Archer Tue 03:21
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• About Redress Requests...
  Thank you very much for your thoughts, John.
  Vince
  Vince Harris Today 02:25
• Language for disallowing bowsprit extension until a boat is at a mark
  John P re: "That said, some boats aren't rigged in a way that you can reasonably wait until the halyard is going up to extend the pole. "
  
  
  What do you mean by that?
  
  Ang - The A Scow I race on can't tolerate a pre-feed on the spinnaker tack. The kite would go in the water and shrimp. I could re-rig it so pole out is linked to tackline, but that's a project I can't do quickly and it has downsides of lots of friction, losing speed when speed in the hoist. With a big kite, a 1:1 pull on the pole may not be enough with a pre-feed that wouldn't shrimp. A Melges 24 is 2:1, and maybe that would work on the A Scow (bigger kite so might need more than 2:1), but executing on that by next week would be impossible for me. 
  John Porter Tue 19:55
• R20 Hailing for room to tack and the new WS Q&A
  @Bob - Case 113 says that M must also hail W, but only AFTER L's hail for room to tack that may (or may not) have been heard by W.  And if M does not hail and cannot respond until W does then she breaks 20.2(c).  This is consistent with my analysis and really makes L's hail to W irrelevant.
  
  @Phil - the problem is that when you protest and it is dismissed because of the Q&A then how do you explain that to the sailors?  The only way that the hailing boat breaks a rule is if they make a valid hail and the other conditions are not met.  Every other scenario results in no rule being broken.
  
  Unless you are willing to bring rule 2 into play, a good strategy for the leeward boat is to make an early invalid hail for room, get the windward boat to tack away, and then continue on.  You can easily claim that your hail was only a warning that you would soon be making a valid hail for room and the windward boat misinterpreted the warning as an actual hail and tacked away on her own.  The Q&A says no rules broken and the windward boat has no recourse.  On the San Francisco City Front in a flood tide, the race is over for the boat that tacked first.  The windward boat's best strategy is to ignore everything that is not a valid hail and to tack when they are damn good and ready or hear a valid hail.  Not sure how this makes things safer.
  John Christman Tue 18:46
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  Andrew Paterson Mon 11:53
• 2025 RRS 18.3 Tacking in the zone
  I understand what you say Michael. It looks as if a boat, having acquired mark-room, can behave in a completely unseamanlike manner, subject to other rules, yet retain mark-room !
  Robin Meads Sat 15:31

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