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  Thank you John for your insight into the matter.
  Capt Tribhuwan Jaiswal Today 03:49
• Giving mark room
  Dave,
  
  

  From you post you said:
  
  

  “But you (Bob) finished your quote from Case 75 just before the most important bit (in our situation) which says:

  "However, because S had right of way she was not required to remain within that corridor ..."”
  
  

  I don’t see the relevance of this as Blue (inside boat) is not the right of way boat in our fact pattern???  Please explain??
  
  

  Anyway, staying within the corridor is only desirable if you want the protection of mark room so Blue definitely would want to sail there as it was the room to which she was entitled by mark room. 
  
  

  I take it from your answer that you don’t agree that Blue is entitled to sail directly to the mark (as per case 75) .  At no time in these facts did Yellow give Blue room to sail directly to the mark and indeed forced her to sail a looping course.  It’s not just what happens when you get to the mark that counts. Each part of the definition of mark room must be satisfied.
  
  

  When you say “case closed” is that recognition that 6 posters have dsq’d the Yellow boat and only you have absolved her so majority rules?? 😁
  
  

  
  
  Bob Lewis Today 02:56
• US 130's "however" scenario.
  Ang, It is tricky to apply your scenarios without drawings of the rest of the scenario. In all three cases, RRS 18.3 will eventually turn off RRS 18.2. It seems there are issues before this point that are pretty clearly covered in US Appeal 130, so I will ignore them. I don't think the inside boat ever acquires mark-room, however, it would be leeward boat. Furthermore, inside boat should choose to tack once they are fetching, so mark-room would be irrelevant. I'm not sure I get the issue you're proposing.
  
  Lastly, the RC should try to avoid setting a course where the course would hairpin back across itself at a mark. In your modified diagram 5, this should have been a starboard rounding, and it would avoid the issue entirely. I still see situations where this could happen (a beam reach approach) but at least that removes the additional challenge of more boats from other legs in the mix. Should make solving any scenario easy based on the tail end of 18.2, RRS13, and RRS 11. I think it's fine that 18.3 turns off 18.2.
  Niko Kotsatos Yesterday 15:33
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  Thank you. I'd also like to thank my friends at Community Boating in Boston who come up with good scenarios on a weekly basis and allow me to obfuscate, adulterate, and then post them here.
  Niko Kotsatos Yesterday 14:23
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