• Close Starboard-Port upwind with 20m Bargers RRS 10 -15-14
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  Gijs Vlas Yesterday 16:08
• RRS 20.1
  54 Comments
  Chin In Sun 23:13
• New medal series formats
  9 Comments
  Jacopo Morelli Sat 11:29
• RRS 63.5(c) and what a PC "believes"
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  Angelo Guarino 25-Oct-10 17:48
• Rule 18.3
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  Eric Meyn 25-Oct-10 12:54

• RRS 20.1
  Angelo and Michael -- I think three different types of anticipation... 
  
  

  • 20.1 timing: anticipating, meaning keeping a close watch, being alert to the situation -- seems limited to the inquiry as to how much time should the 20.1 hailing boat give the hailed boat. The answer seems "a reasonable amount given the situation." If you're sailing on a 120m wide river, well, it is reasonable to expect you to be pretty ready to tack, because, obvious.
  • Part 2 generally: anticipating you might lose right of way soon -- not required. If while going upwind, a boat is coming at you higher and faster and from behind, you don't need to anticipate and come up before the overlap is created. (And they don't get to just ram you if you don't.)
  • R14 requirement to avoid contact when it becomes clear the other boat is not keeping clear -- this is also about anticipating... I was anticipating the other boat will come to their senses and change course, now that it is clear to a reasonable skipper that they are not changing course, so I am under an obligation to do what I can to avoid contact.
    • In the R20.1 case, I think in some scenarios, the PC should take the hail into account when determining when it was "clear" that the hailing boat was not going to keep clear. Consider:
      • A boat hails "Room" and leaves out "to tack." Let's assume the hailing boat is too close to duck the hailed boat. Then, 45 seconds after the hail, the hailing boat begins their tack. To a reasonable skipper, it was clear what they were going to do, it is now abundantly clear that they are doing it. But instead, the hailed boat holds their course. They hold it long enough that they hit them and damage occurs. The hailed skipper says "I was unclear as to what they were doing" or "I thought they were going to tack back." I think they clearly broke Rule 14, because they did not take action when it was clear that the hailing boat was not keeping clear. It's just what Rule 14 is meant to avoid: taking the thinnest of technical excuses (they used the wrong words) to put sea lawyering over the obligation to avoid contact.
  Dan Falcon Today 21:03
• Close Starboard-Port upwind with 20m Bargers RRS 10 -15-14
  This is very cool Gijs Vlas!
  On the one hand, I'm loathe to draw conclusions from a video, and I definitely see how the starboard boat could be seen as breaking RRS15.
  
  However, I see something that counters that conclusion: at 42 seconds, JJ (Orange) begins her turn to avoid. However, at 45 seconds, with her jib partially luffing, she arrests her turn by centering her tiller (or even slightly above). JJ does not start turning again until 50 seconds, and does not cross head-to-wind until 58 seconds. That's 16+ seconds between Yellow reaching close-hauled and JJ crossing HTW. Additionally, within that time, JJ kills all their speed, making it even harder for them to avoid. It's an odd maneuver by JJ IMO.
  
  I actually think your diagram is too "kind" to Orange. I think when Z (Yellow) completes her tack, there is more than 2 boat-lengths between them. Also, JJ fails to even get past HTW before they come together, which isn't quite represented correctly in your diagram.
  
  I think it's likely that most protest committees would need help getting there, but it should be possible to find Orange delayed their avoiding maneuver for too long.
  Niko Kotsatos Today 13:56
• New medal series formats
  Olympic sailing would do well to include match racing in traditional spinnaker displacement boats.
  Also perhaps a mini version of SailGP (like in foiling Nacras with a similar format though probably over more days). Heck full SailGP would be fine if they wanted.
  I'd also love to see teams racing, though I can imagine only a select few would know what was going on in terms of the rules and boat-handling. Perhaps 2v2 would be more digestible, even though it's clearly a lesser sport.
  I also think that freestyle kiting should probably be included, as well as wing-foil racing.
  
  That's five events under the sailing umbrella, but with sufficient differences such that it would be similar to watching skiing or skating in all their formats.
  Niko Kotsatos Tue 15:22
• Leeward mark on opposite tacks
  It's RRS 18.2a(1). Both of them are overlapped before enter the zone with Blue inside and Yellow outside. To answer Antonio, Yellow shall give Mark room to Blue... 
  Chin In Mon 14:00
• Best Scoring System to Select Champion Boat from multiple Divisions
  I think here we get into an interesting philosophical point.  Are we evaluating boats based on SPEED or are we evaluating them based on OUTMANEUVERING their competitors strategically?  The winning boat may have given up course time to cover their competition.  A good move in that division even if it cost some time.
  Michael Moradzadeh Sat 12:16

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