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Does the RRS Require Reasonable Care?

Paul Zupan

Nationality: United States

Certifications:

International Judge
National Judge

As much as judges struggle with RRS 2, let me add another dimension to the discussion. I believe that too often judges fail to consider RRS 2 where the question is negligence. And, I believe that RRS 2 requires a PC to consider it in many fairly common situations.

RRS 2 requires that a boat and her owner shall compete in compliance with recognized principles of sportsmanship and fair play. I'm not going to delve into the nuances of this language except to acknowledge that the rule does ask the question, "did the competitor act in a way we would consider to be unsportsmanlike," and commonly that is interpreted as some sort of intent to break a rule. (See case ). But let's also consider negligence, which is defined as a failure to exercise reasonable care. Negligence doesn't consider the intent of the competitor, instead considering whether he or she departed from the conduct expected of a reasonably prudent sailor acting under similar circumstances. Is that not unsportsman like?

The first example is a fairly straight forward port starboard situation unfortunately not that uncommon. Without any further information, did either boat break RRS 2?

I would conclude port broke RRS 2. Port probably failed to keep a proper lookout, which I believe is negligent and therefore unsportsmanlike like. But starboard took avoiding action (whether or not it was soon enough is a different question relevant to our RRS 14 determination) and tried but failed to keep clear. So starboard's response falls into what I would consider the action of a reasonably prudent sailor.

But, did starboard break RRS 2 in this situation?

I would suggest that both boats broke RRS 2. At a minimum, it appears neither boat kept a proper lookout, which I believe is negligent, and therefore unsportsmanlike like. But that analysis means we did not consider the intent of either boat/competitor. (Had we concluded either intended to proceed into that situation and intentionally break a rule without mitigating circumstances, surely we would conclude it broke RRS 2).

And finally the following scenario. This is unfortunately (mostly) a real situation, but in fairness to the competitors, we won't discuss the details of the protest (the diagram is not from the protest). As the three boats approach an obstruction (a shoreline with a navigational marker), the green boat does not respond to the hails from the other boats. The blue boat is dis-masted after being entangled in the navigational marker. Did green break RRS 2?

So the question is, do you believe RRS 2 includes negligence? And if not, do you think the policy behind RRS 2 extends to penalizing sailors who act in a negligent manner (and therefore we should change RRS 2 to include it)?

Created: 17-Mar-05 15:26

Comments

David Lees

Nationality: United Kingdom

Certifications:

International Judge
National Umpire

The thinking in asking this question is wrong. Rule 2 is only broken if the boat and its owner does not compete 'with recognized principles of sportsmanship and fair play.' Whether he or she sails negligently, or even criminally, is not the issue for rule 2 although it may be something for the PC to consider in the evidence. In addition the question is asked on the basis of the English, or at least Anglo-Saxon, definition of negligence. The rules are designed for every system of law throughout the world and it is not right to base a question on any particular system of law.

Created: 17-Mar-05 17:20

David Brunskill

Nationality: United Kingdom

Certifications:

National Judge

I'm with David Lees on this

I have a case, a port/starboard case with serious damage currently under appeal so no details but one issue was whether or not rule 2 had been broken. The protest committee certainly considered that there had been negligence from both parties but that it did not amount to a breach of "recognized principles of sportsmanship and fair play"

Created: 17-Mar-05 17:48

Paul Zupan

Nationality: United States

Certifications:

International Judge
National Judge

Is a boat acting dangerously conducting itself in an unsportsmanlike manner?

Created: 17-Mar-05 18:15

George Bradley

Nationality: United States

Certifications:

Regional Race Officer

I too agree with David Lees. To me, unsportsmanlike conduct requires intent, or intentional actions, not simple carelessness. No one is an accidental poor sport. We have plenty of other rules covering the consequences of inattentiveness; no need to stretch the meaning of this very valuable rule.

Created: 17-Mar-05 19:01

David Tallis

Nationality: Australia

Certifications:

International Judge
International Umpire
National Judge
National Umpire
National Race Officer

There are situations where a boat acting dangerously may well be acting in an unsportsmanlike way but I don't think that applies in the three situations above. I am in the same camp as George Bradley and would need to see intent.

Created: 17-Mar-05 20:27

Clark Chapin

Nationality: United States

Certifications:

National Judge
Club Race Officer

I also agree with David Lees on this.
I've always been guided by the principle: "Never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by ignorance"
Rule 2 is for malice, not ignorance.

Created: 17-Mar-05 20:48

Pat Healy

Nationality: United States

Certifications:

International Judge

"Negligence doesn't consider the intent of the competitor, instead considering whether he or she departed from the conduct expected of a reasonably prudent sailor acting under similar circumstances. Is that not unsportsman like?"

I think you are closer to defining "unseamanlike" rather than "unsportsmanlike".

Maybe the best regatta discussions I've had are around the question, "What facts would lead us to the conclusion that a competitor intended to disregard or break the rule?" Most of the married judges say their spouses have no problems determining their intent while concluding it is impossible for them to determine their spouses. More seriously, I've had more than a few instances where a competitor missed a mark and, I think, never realized it.

Created: 17-Mar-05 23:31

Ben Fels

Nationality: Australia

Certifications:

International Judge
International Umpire
National Race Officer

I think the rules are trying to avoid the term negligence, just as rule 67 avoids the question of damages.

This issue is addressed in the new case on misconduct (which has been approved but not published - it may get some final editing) and there is a clear example of what Paul is referring to.

"In amplification of rule 69.1(a), the following actions should be considered as examples of misconduct, but they are not exclusive examples and not a definitive list:
.......
..... 5. Acting recklessly or in manner that does, or is likely to, cause damage or injury ....."

We provided an extract to our sailors at an event earlier this year on the back of the Race Sailing Instructions and the feedback was unanimously "fair enough".

Here's what we gave them if you want an idea about how to introduce it.

http://sscbc.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/RSI-Portsea-Cup-2017-V3.pdf For our club, we think we want to make sure everyone is aware of the standard and bring them all up to it.

The full case can be found here http://www.sailing.org/tools/documents/08816RacingRulesofSailingNewCaseRule69-[21279].pdf

Created: 17-Mar-06 00:00

Ben Fels

Nationality: Australia

Certifications:

International Judge
International Umpire
National Race Officer

We also had an appeal in a similar situation to Diagram 3 and eventually found the answer in previously withdrawn Case 54, which was modified and later re-approved at the 2016 conference. The issue there was that in 20 kts and over 100 meters away the hails could not be heard. Question 4 in the new case addresses this and the last sentence in the reason is really useful too.
http://www.sailing.org/tools/documents/08316RacingRulesofSailingCase54-[21271].pdf

Created: 17-Mar-06 00:36

David Lees

Nationality: United Kingdom

Certifications:

International Judge
National Umpire

I wouldn't want to add to the general comment having made my opinions clear but it's good to know that Pat's wife doesn't read his emails!

Created: 17-Mar-06 09:25

Rob Overton

Nationality: United States

Certifications:

National Judge
International Umpire

I don't agree with Paul that negligence is unsportsmanlike, at least if it doesn't constitute blatant disregard for the rules. However, in all the cases he gives, the protest committee should consider whether either or both boats broke rule 2 if they didn't retire after the incident (which in each case obviously caused serious damage, if not injury). A boat that breaks a rule and should know with certainty that she has done so, but does not take a penalty, breaks rule 2.

I think protest committees do not look at rule 2 nearly enough. In my mind at least, rule 2 is all about winning by unsportsmanlike conduct. When a boat barges at the start and breaks rule 11 with respect to the boat to leeward of her, I think she probably breaks rule 2 -- she knows there's a rule requiring her to keep clear and she purposely breaks it in order to win the boat end of the line. Ditto the boat that comes into the port-hand windward mark on port tack, crash tacks and then sails around the mark, breaking one of rules 13, 18.3, or 31. Regardless of whether the offender takes her turns or, if she does, gains an advantage, she knows there are rules prohibiting her action and she breaks them intentionally in order to avoid the consequences -- in the case of barging, getting a lusy start; in the case of the port-tack boat at the windward mark, ducking several boats on the starboard layline. That, in my mind, breaks rule 2 and she should be penalized for that.

One last comment: I'm puzzled by Paul's analysis of the first scenario he gives. It certainly looks as if Yellow breaks rule 16.1 here -- if she had sailed straight she would have missed Blue, or at the very worst, would have had to make a small duck. By hunting up, she causes major contact, and there's no way Blue can keep clear in a seamanlike manner. Paul asserts that Blue didn't maintain a lookout, but she may have simply believed she could cross Yellow safely -- clearly not a rule-2, or even a rule-14, violation.

Created: 17-Mar-06 15:41

Brent Draney

Nationality: United States

Certifications:

Judge In Training

At the risk of usurping Paul's original intent of exploring negligence as a grounds for breaking rule 2, I would suggest that when testimony is given that a boat knows that another boat has dismasted (Scenario 3) and does not hail or stop top racing to verify that the disabled vessel is both OK and does not need assistance; that boat is intentionally breaking rule 1.1 and is therefore breaking rule 2. I personally find this argument most compelling when a boat is directly involved in the incident that led to the dismasting and then continues to sail the race course to completion without attempting to contact the disabled vessel or render assistance.

I would potentially consider such a situation as misconduct under rule 69.1(b)(2) conduct that may bring the sport into disrepute, if there was serious injury. I would appreciate other's thoughts on this view.

I would not suggest that the word negligence be added to the sailing vocabulary I think that there is sufficient power to in the current rules to get to the desired effect and the pejorative connotations of finding fault with methods of sailing vs the specific actions may lead to greater stress in hearings, specially when that language may have serious legal consequences.

I greatly appreciate Paul's efforts and analysis of these scenarios and the discussion it generated.

Created: 17-Mar-07 00:02

Zich Zichy-Woinarski Q.C.

Nationality: Australia

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The question asked by Paul is wrong. He has posed it as a negative and introduced a word that is not in the rule: consider. The rule simply requires a determination of whether or not the conduct was in compliance with recognised principles of sportsmanship and fair play. Perhaps the problem would be better if the hypothetical was that the starboard boat by taking action earlier could have avoided the collision. It is arguable that such a failure is not sportsmanlike nor negligent.

Created: 17-Mar-07 11:31

Paul Zupan

Nationality: United States

Certifications:

International Judge
National Judge

I think Ben Fels saw the issue I'm trying to raise. Submission 088-16 discusses misconduct and paragraph 5 in Answer 1 identifies Acting recklessly or in manner that does, or is likely to, cause damage or injury as an example. Most of the comments above react negatively to the word "negligent." But many are willing to concede that acting recklessly could be bad sportsmanship. So I have two questions.

Given the Submission (assuming it is approved), do you think there is potential to find a RRS 2 (or 69 for that matter) violation without any finding of intent where the competitor is acting recklessly (and affects the competition)? The key point here is how you get to the decision. Is it enough that the PC decides that the competitor was acting recklessly without any finding as to his intent?
And for those that didn't like the word "negligence", since negligent is a synonym of reckless, are you able to describe why you think using the word negligent is inappropriate? The reason I think this is important is that, given the commonality of the term, and that the definitions are interchangeable, the examples of negligent conduct are too important to dismiss simply because of the word wasn't used in the Submission.

And finally, let me just say that I find this issue significant because the PC is now granted the discretion to apply a more lenient penalty under the 2017 RRS 2 making the rule a much more useful tool. I think we'll see more discussion of potential misconduct given that flexibility.

Created: 17-Mar-07 22:14

Brent Draney

Nationality: United States

Certifications:

Judge In Training

I don't think that Negligent and Reckless are at the same level. Negligent (related to Neglect) is more of an absence of seaman like behavior.
Reckless tends to be seen as active. Not keeping a proper lookout may be negligent. Tacking into a boat that is too close for it to be a safe maneuver would seem reckless. The reason I like this distinction is that it is easier to get to intent with an active component. (someone intended to tack). Its very hard to argue that someone intended or expected that something bad would happen when they don't keep a proper lookout. In fact they incorrectly assumed that nothing bad would happen and were wrong.

Created: 17-Mar-08 01:17

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