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• Mark-Room and Room to Pass an Obstruction who wins.
  John C, i agree that the overlap started when it started but it's relevance under a particular rule like 18 and 19, is when the overlap triggers a condition in the rule. As you know, 19.1 is At an obstruction. The operative word AT is when a boat is one boat length away. Therefore the overlap is only applicable at that instant for subsequent provisions of 19 to be useful.
  In this case, 18 was triggered first and still applicable throughout.
  
  Incidentally, In the absence of SR, if PE left the tree to starboard and was alongside the tree, it was barely more than 1 hull length. If for whatever reason they left it to port, it similarly was debatable if it was more than 3 hull lengths. So in either direction, calling it a continuing obstruction to force 19 to override 18 is bit of a stretch as some other responses have suggested.
  
  I disagree with your statement that "Sleigh Ride, as the ROW boat, has chosen to pass the obstruction on her starboard side long before she reached the zone of the mark.". The tree was never an obstruction to SR long before the zone or in the zone. According to the diagram she was on the layline for the mark with just enough room to round it before she became one boat length for the tree).  The tree for SR really didn't pose a problem for her course to round the mark and therefore her choice to leave the tree to starboard was because the tree was incidentally on her starboard side.
  
  With respect to PE, it was not the ROW boat AT the obstruction. Therefore under 19.2.a, she had no right to choose which way to round and was obligated to keep clear of SR . The only option therefore, was to keep clear of SR (as she was already obligated to do), luff up and leave the tree to port, or slow down and slot in behind SR and round the mark.
  
  If there was room between the mark and tree for both boats, PE could take that route but not because she chose to as a right under 19.2a
  
  
  Tim OConnell Today 22:08
• Appointment of an Investigator
  That’s fair enough too of course thanks Jim…
  
  

  On your final point, as I read it - STEPS: 1. PC (shall have at least three members) considers allegation of a breach of rule 69.1(a) (PC shall consider & decide whether or not to call a hearing). 2. in considering, if PC needs more information for the decision to call a hearing, it shall consider appointing a person or persons to conduct an investigation (investigator s) produce ‘a report’ of sorts for PC, and shall be disclosed to the PC for their considerations), 3. Hearing Decided (a Rule 69 hearing shall not be combined with any other type of hearing): if the protest committee decides to call a hearing, all relevant information gathered by the investigator, favourable or unfavorable, shall also be disclosed to the parties.
  John Quirk Yesterday 08:33
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  The Hystericals play their own game though. Didn't they eschew RRS for a long time? A class can permit poling out spinnaker clews in Class Rules/SIs if it so desires.
  But I think the innovation about Buckland/Bethwaite's kites was not the concept of an asymmettric sail on a pole, which was common enough, but that it was a sail set on a bowsprit with a loose luff like a spinnaker, not a taut luff like the old school sails tended to be.
  Jim Champ Sun 16:10
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