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  • Certainly a practical-applied way of looking at it Gordon. When I first saw the phrase I of course considered 'beyond a reasonable doubt' connotation (as we know, this means 'the evidence must leave little actual doubt in the mind of the judge or jury that the defendant committed the alleged offense - purely speculative doubts are excluded' etc) but as was alluded to above in this thread, perhaps just a choice of words by the original author ('slip of the tongue' )), and not meant in any way to add a third standard of proof).
    Today 03:41
  • As Ben alluded to, not a lot of 'search strikes' on 'safety' and those contents not really about this [morphed] topic - especially, given the prominance of 'EHS' in most jurisdictions and those potential liabilities etc nowadays (I can tell you from my experiences in the major construction industry that a Coroner’s Court is not a pleasant place to be - in a scalpel like manner). A matter that is surely front and center with OAs, skippers and boat owners alike. Irish model look quite appropriate considering.
    Keyword Search Safety:
    RRS – 5
    Case Book - 16
    Judges Manual – 18
    WS Code of Conduct – 0
    WS WORLD SAILING REGULATIONS – 4
    Offshore Special Regulations – 65
    CONVENTION ON THE INTERNATIONAL REGULATIONS FOR PREVENTING COLLISIONS AT SEA – 3 (‘safe’ – 12)
    Today 02:52
  • What a great Christmas Bonbon you gave us Mark! It's a Cracker!

    There have been many incredibly insightful comments but no agreed conclusion.

    Personally I like Jim's recent summary of "Angelo's interpretation" as it appears to be the fairest interpretation.

    To me, the underlying problem appears to be that the rules themselves are not 'deterministic' in this and some other situations. Ultimately, the rules alone should be sufficient. Cases may help but they should not be required.

    Today 01:11
  • At my Club we have solved this issue two ways.  Most of our distance random-leg races finish in front of the Clubhouse, between two pilings lined up with our "Finish Hut" on shore.

    For our weeknight series where we run five starts for eight Divisions in the 1830-1900 timeframe, we state that a boat in a starting class that finishes by 2100 makes the race valid for that starting class, and that boats finishing after 2100 shall take their own finish time and report it to the RC.  If no boat in a starting class finishes by 2100 then the race is abandoned for that class.  This allows our RC volunteers to know when their job is completed, without penalizing slow boats.

    Similarly for our regatta distance races, typically 20-25 nm, we state that there is no time limit, but the RC will stay on station (ashore) for five hours from the starting time.  Boats finishing later may take their own times and report it to the RC.   We implemented this about three years ago and have had no issues.
    Yesterday 14:57
  • One advantage of defining the line as 2 separate segments is that the line on each side of the mid-line vessel to not have to be the same. You can adjust the lines on each side so that they are suitable for the existing conditions. On a long line it may well be that wind or tide will not be uniform over the full length of the line.
    Yesterday 10:28

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