• From Course Side?
  21 Comments
  John D. Farris Yesterday 18:59
• Close Starboard-Port upwind with 20m Bargers RRS 10 -15-14
  18 Comments
  Gijs Vlas Thu 16:08
• RRS 20.1
  59 Comments
  Chin In 25-Oct-12 23:13
• New medal series formats
  9 Comments
  Jacopo Morelli 25-Oct-11 11:29
• RRS 63.5(c) and what a PC "believes"
  11 Comments
  Angelo Guarino 25-Oct-10 17:48

• From Course Side?
  Tom .. as a competitor .. I assume that the orange flag means the line is set.  This is a signal to boats that they can do what they do to get line sights or ping the ends. (Especially important with the prevalence of "mark-bots" ... used to be u could see when the pin was set when the mark boat dropped the anchor ... but not any more)
  
  If you have a large event with multiple starts ... a good RC will have that up at least 5 mins before the first start ... maybe longer if this is a huge event.  If you don't ... you will have later fleets in the starting area for earlier starts.  
  
  This is where having RO's with strong racing experience is important.  They understand it from the competitors POV. 
  Angelo Guarino Today 14:10
• Unrestricted Access to Protest Form
  My bad. I realised that if I  selected a live event I could initiate hearing requests from my phone.
  This highlights a point that I have often encountered - race officials are often surprising un-informed of how the competitor uses the system the system.
  G
  Gordon Davies Today 13:19
• RRS 20.1
  These are not technicalities. It is a straightforward rule which is written in plain English. It is one sentence: A boat may hail for room to tack and avoid a boat on the same tack by hailing 'Room to tack'.
  
  It can be read in the rule book and does not need to be taught "in the coaching room, parking lot, or the bar". To suggest that is to suggest that you need special privileges to learn to sail fairly. Instead, we need to take care to make our sport more accessible to those who are not "insiders". There are many things that were "accepted for generations" which we might prefer weren't (slavery is an extreme example that I hope we can agree on).
  
  In this thread and others, we have outlined over and over again the safety measures that allow a boat to avoid collisions:

  1. read the rules and know three words to say. If you want to take advantage of the tactical benefits that RRS 20 conveys, this is the ask
  2. if you don't receive room, avoid collisions any way you can (luff sails, head up, duck)
  3. shout for help when you need it
  4. I also note that other boats are required to avoid causing collisions, so they will have significant onus even if rule 20 is not invoked

  
  Lastly, I will defend myself personally. I would always respond and ask questions if I felt the other boat was requesting room to tack. But I also would not give an inch if another boat were trying to trick me into tacking well before it was necessary and then able to hide behind "I didn't invoke the rule". This is one of the many reasons to have a specific wording to invoke the rule, and it allows conversation and communication, both essential to good sportsmanship.
  Niko Kotsatos Today 13:18
• Close Starboard-Port upwind with 20m Bargers RRS 10 -15-14
  Gijs, looking at the video, one thing that we don't know is if the camera angle cut at 0:42 is at the same time-stamp (no loss of time or repeat of time).
  
  ASSUMING THAT THE CAMERA ANGLE CUT WAS DONE AT THE EXACT SAME TIME

  
  Z completes a smooth seamanlike tack from 0:29-0:41 (12 sec).  So, we can at least judge that is a reasonable time in these conditions to turn through a tack.
  
  Now, lets look at 0:42 ... 

  • Z has reached her close-hauled course.
  • J has tacked passed her close-hauled course

  
  After the camera angle cut at 0:42

  • J alters course to windward from 0:42-0:46, apparently coming up to her port-tack close-hauled course. 
  • The J's rudder is steady from 0:45 to 0:49
  • J turns her rudder at 0:49 to tack and reaches HTW at 0:57

  
  

  Z alters course to avoid J starting at 0:57, prior to J reaching close-hauled

  
  

  From the video, it looks to me that Z provided J time to keep-clear under RRS 15 and that J broke RRS 13.
  
  

  1. At 0:42, Z had established herself on starboard-tack and was no longer under RRS 13.
  2. J could have altered course to leeward starting at 0:42 and ducked Z instead of coming up to a close-hauled course
  3. J could also have continued her turn and not paused for 4 seconds between 0:45-0:49.  That extra 4 seconds would have put her turn full-tack at 12 sec's .. the same as Z's open water seamanlike tack.
  Angelo Guarino Sun 11:57
• New medal series formats
  Olympic sailing would do well to include match racing in traditional spinnaker displacement boats.
  Also perhaps a mini version of SailGP (like in foiling Nacras with a similar format though probably over more days). Heck full SailGP would be fine if they wanted.
  I'd also love to see teams racing, though I can imagine only a select few would know what was going on in terms of the rules and boat-handling. Perhaps 2v2 would be more digestible, even though it's clearly a lesser sport.
  I also think that freestyle kiting should probably be included, as well as wing-foil racing.
  
  That's five events under the sailing umbrella, but with sufficient differences such that it would be similar to watching skiing or skating in all their formats.
  Niko Kotsatos 25-Oct-14 15:22

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