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  • Niko,

    You suggested:

    "Gotcha. Since they all have handicaps, would you consider scoring them based on their adjusted average speed over the night? Basically handicapping the whole fleet against each other.
    To me, that seems more fair than comparing them based on the place they finish within their fleet of completely different competitors."

    I like your suggestion and I plan to run some tests vs the method I have been using around the Most Competitive Fleet.

    Thank you.
    Today 18:28
  • I deliberately haven’t read the thread yet, so I won’t be influenced by what others wrote.
    Here’s what I would suggest if I were on the Protest Committee (though keep in mind I’m a rather newbie here):

    1. Hold the only valid hearing—the one with boats C and D present;

    2. If, and only if, that hearing revealed evidence that A and/or B may have broken a rule, then I’d have the PC file a protest under RRS 60.4(c)(2) against one or both boats, and continue according to 63.2(d);

    3. The question of distance is tricky, but in my opinion, it falls outside the Rules. Nowadays, though, remote hearings are a valid alternative to being physically present. If that weren’t possible, and the PC’s documents already suggested a strong likelihood of needing to proceed as in point 2, then I’d kindly ask A and B to be ready in advance.

    Today 18:02
  • John, 

    The published RYA legal advice is that anyone under 16yo has to be considered to not be capable of making any decisions about their safety themselves and the RO or Event Director is personally legally responsible for their safety from when they tally on to when they tally off. Risk Assessments have to be done, including launching, crossing roads and all the time they are on the water etc and if the risk is not al low as reasonably possible suitable control measures have to be put in place to reduce the risk. This also applied to all beginners, those under training and vulnerable adults. 

    Experienced sailors 16 and over can be expected to make some decisions for themselves but the RO is still expected to have enough support boats available to attend all capsizes within a "reasonable" time, otherwise the RO is negligent. 


    Today 17:18
  • Perfetto
    Grazie Claudio
    Today 05:05
  • David,

    The insurers will decide if they payout and how much of the total they will contribute to.
    But they do not decide the right/wrong of an incident nor the quantum of any payment.   
    That is ultimately decided by authorities conduction inquests and/or courts if there is a dispute about it.
     
    If a boat racing with an unaffiliated club (without an aquatic licence) is found at fault of a serious incident, then they are still liable of any penalty/damages decided by the courts, but they may be unable to pay if their insurance company decides not to contribute.  We are required to have $10,000,000 of personal liability coverage because damages can be significant for serious incidents.  I don't think most skippers can pay such sums if their insurance decides they were not covered due to racing outside of their guidelines.
    Yesterday 23:13

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