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World Sailing has posted development rule - DR21-01 ALTERNATIVE STARTING PENALTY

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Angelo Guarino
Nationality: United States of America
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  • Fleet Measurer
Link to doc: DR21-01 ALTERNATIVE STARTING PENALTY

As stated in the document's introduction, when the new quad came out with a new def for Start, Finish and Sail the Course, this took away the ability to simply change Rule 28 to provide for boats that are OCS to keep sailing and take a penalty.  This is common in many of the growing and popular "Pursuit" style races, where each boat has a starting time based on their handicap and distance of race and they start slower boats first, as well as in "Big Boat" races like SuperYachts and VOR.

Please note that this development rule requires that it be implemented in the NOR, so if you have pursuit-style events coming up or other events where you traditionally had a no-return start, now's the time to take a look at what this Development Rule offers.

Ang
Created: 21-Apr-28 16:04

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David Brunskill
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Thanks Ang. 

DR21 is a welcome clarification.  Readers should however note that neither this, not the night time sailing appendix RV, nor the virtual mark rounding rule are referred to directly in the revised IJ manual.  Whilst DR 21 is shown on the recently updated documents of the WS website finding the other two appendices is extremely difficult.  

The IJ manual is however helpful on the subject of why disqualifying boats for being OCS on a long race is inappropriate.  Some form of discretionary penalty has been in place for boats OCS for many offshore races for well over two decades and there are versions to suit all forms of offshore and coastal racing - not just pursuit races.  

Before the chapter in the IJ manual was redrafted by the (then) ISAF working party I chaired it was originally structured more as a guide for race officers and judges and it contained a table of all the rules affecting offshore racing and what changes might be needed.  I would suggest that such a guide would continue to be of assistance to race officers and judges tasked with offshore race management worldwide.  Being a retired IJ I'm not the person to handle the job, but it is a job that needs doing.  


Created: 21-Apr-28 17:09
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Angelo Guarino
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David, I've found that if I search for "World Sailing Test Rules" in my web browser, it's comes up #1 every time ..

https://www.sailing.org/documents/racingrules/experimental-rules.php


Created: 21-Apr-28 17:13
David Brunskill
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Thanks Again Ang.

Created: 21-Apr-28 18:26
Kett Cummins
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Any thoughts on this language?

"A boat on the course side of the starting line at her starting signal (OCS) shall receive a penalty of one (1) hour added to her corrected time and be considered to have corrected her starting error in accordance with RRS 28.2. This alters RRS A10 OCS."

This is for a TOT race, so a corrected time penalty is fairer than elapsed time.
Created: 21-Apr-29 04:46
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Angelo Guarino
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Kett, I think if you use the DR above, your NOR might look something like ..  (using the required Start def, a 1 min OCS window, and penalty option #2) - ang

Under World Sailing Test Rule DR21-01, change the definition Start as follows:


Start
A boat starts when her hull having been entirely on the prestart side of the starting line, and having complied with rule 30.1 if it applies, any part of her hull crosses the starting line from the pre-start side to the course side either 
(a) at or after her starting signal, or 
(b) during the last [1 min] before her starting signal. 


When a boat starts in accordance with item (b) of the definition
Start, she shall not return to the pre-start side of the line, and
 the starting penalty shall be: 1 hr  shall be added to her elapsed time. 

PS:  Please note in the DR, the OCS--time-window is customizable in the new def:Start.  I just selected 1 min because it aligns with the 1 min limitation in 30.1-30.4 and so competitors might be more accustomed to the idea of staying behind the line in the last min.    

That said, the DR allows you to select an OCS-window that make sense for your event parameters.
Created: 21-Apr-29 14:52
Kett Cummins
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Thanks, Ang.  However, I was looking for a more streamlined approach than the DR.  I'm not running a high level event, so I'm not too worried about it.

I do see a few problems with the DR... 

What happens if a boat crosses the line within the time window, but then dips back below the line prior to her signal? For example, if the time window is, say, 4 minutes and a boat crosses the line while pinging the line? 

The DR and 30.1 seem to be mutually exclusive, as one prohibits returning to restart and the other requires it! 

Finally, the DR says that a boat "shall not return to the pre-start side of the line."  This restriction could become an issue in an adverse current or if taking a penalty turn, etc.  Perhaps "shall not restart" or similar would be more appropriate.

Different events may have different needs, but I like the language, "on the course side of the starting line at her starting signal".  That's really the essence of OCS and what you're typically trying to prevent.  I think World Sailing could add another element to rule 28 to accommodate this situation, thusly...

28.3  If this rule is invoked by the NOR, a boat whose hull is on the course side of the starting line either at, or within a specified time before, her starting signal, shall receive a specified scoring penalty and, thus, shall be considered to have corrected her start and shall not have the option to return to the pre-start side of the line in order to start without additional penalty.

Kett

PS - I know I'm being very hypothetical here and that you don't write the rules!  I'm just spitballing!
Created: 21-Apr-30 16:29
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Angelo Guarino
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Kett, what I wrote was just me taking a WAG at applying the DR to what I thought you wanted based on your post. 

The DR provides a lot of options, including allowing competitors to return and correct their staring errors (that option is shown on pg 2 of the DR, in the first box).   Also as I stated, I just inserted 1 min as the OCS window to show you how it might look.  Make the window 10 sec's if you wish if that makes more sense to you.  Anything in [ ] is an option. These brackets are a little hard to pick-out and discern sometimes in the middle of the text, so read the DR again carefully and I think you'll see you have a lot of flexibility.   

Except for the new start (which the DR states must be written exactly as it is shown), the NOR language that follows are just examples as a guide.

I know that WS looked at a lot of different ways to solve this issue and this is where they landed.  It's concise and highly customizable as illustrated by the example NOR language they provided. 

Your 28.3 won't work because it effectively changes the def: start (without saying so) .. and a rule can't do that.

The crux of the issue is that start is in the new sail the course and the new finish.   If you don't start, and sail the course you can't finish.  By providing an alternate def: start, that fix automatically permutates into finish and sail the course.  Fix the root, and the trunk and limbs follow.
Created: 21-Apr-30 23:23
Kett Cummins
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Ah, but the rules don't say you can't "effectively" change a definition, it only says you can't literally change one! Rule 28.2 allows you to correct any errors in sailing the course. I'm adding a new way to correct an error, not changing what the errors are. 

This is an interesting issue, but the DR is hardly a "concise" solution. It is customizable, but serves many masters. 
I'm not running a world championship or anything, so I'm good with the risk of losing a WS appeal! 
Created: 21-May-01 00:04
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Angelo Guarino
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A change by any other name smells the same .. so it's not allowed.  

The DR is compact .. it only really adds (b) to start and then adds the language either allowing or disallowing returns to correct starting errors.   That's it in a nutshell.

All the other stuff in the doc are examples of NOR options and discussion of the history, need and uses.
Created: 21-May-01 10:57
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