• When is an entry an entry?
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  Paul Kimmens Mon 14:17
• Fix for RRS 60.4(a)(2) – Validity
  13 Comments
  Paul Zupan Sun 20:12
• Measurement Basis of Hull Length or Hull Lengths and Associated Rules
  5 Comments
  John Quirk Sat 17:23
• 1.1 Helping Those in Danger and Redress Race Time Adjustment
  11 Comments
  John Quirk Fri 18:28
• Appointment of an Investigator
  35 Comments
  John Quirk 26-Jan-04 17:44

• Mark-Room and Room to Pass an Obstruction who wins.
  Angelo,
  
  Maybe we should add an extra fact between 5 and 6:

  •  It was not possible for Tailing to leave sufficient space for Windy to pass between Speedy and Tailing.  
  Jonah Dekeyzer Today 08:23
• Fix for RRS 60.4(a)(2) – Validity
  Ant,
  
  Neither nor is not the issue.
  
  The double negative being discussed s the 'Invalid' (think not valid) / not' involved or not saw.
  
  The not valid with either of the two not conditions evaluates to true.  eg IsNotValid(true) This is created by the 'or'between the two conditions.  Thus, currently a protest is invalid if any one of those is true. (Wasnt involved  or Didn't See.) This invalidates a protest by a third party who was not involved but did see the incident. 
  
  Whereas the rule intent is that the protest is only invalid if both are true. (Wasn't involved and Didnt See). 
  
  The fix is to change the or to an 'and' to keep the intended meaning. 
  
  (Pretty simple really.) 
  Benjamin Harding Today 06:46
• When is an entry an entry?
  A boat that has not complied with all the requirements of the organising authority is not entered.
  
  It might be useful to have a list of boats who have met some to the requirements but not all (with the list of requirements that have not been met. However, I would argue that this is an 'Incomplete Entry' or 'Not Yet Entered. However, by demonstrating that they intend to participate in the event, under RRS 4(a) they have agreed to accept the rules. This may be of importance if the boat goes racing without completing the entry requirements.
  
  A  boat does not have to enter the event to be subject to the rules. RRS4 (a) specifically states 'By participating or intending to participate in an events', not 'entered'
  We have had incidents here in which boats entered for the club racing series do not enter the club regatta, but come to the starting area, start, sail the course and finish. In other words, they are participating in the event. Therefore, the rules of Part 2 apply between this non-entered boat and other boats participating in the event.
  Gordon Davies Yesterday 15:43
• Measurement Basis of Hull Length or Hull Lengths and Associated Rules
  I'm not sure that the recent revisions involving hull have been an improvement. We have the situation where bowsprit doesn't count for over the line or hull length, but does count for overlap. And ERS isn't that helpful when it comes to hull length. If you take a modern 18 or other similar craft there's a nominally vertical stem, but a tube projecting from that, with bracing structure both beneath and to each side. Throroughly part of the hull. OK, count it as bow sprit. Maybe. But in other classes you have exactly the same, but a solid construction. Look at these two. Where, in ERS terms is the bow on each, and how on earth do you tell who is over if you are sighting a busy startline? 

  

  Jim Champ Sun 13:25
• 1.1 Helping Those in Danger and Redress Race Time Adjustment
  Very practical method Alan - and 'refreshing' (for the routine ones I have PC experience in, we just did the corection calcs within ourselves - this case a major one) - for ourselves, easy enough to submit to the PC, when national level racing, as we always log all such baseline performance & tracking data from the onset of every race (and event YB Tracker always used etc).
  
  
  John Quirk Sun 00:15

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