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  • John Q. I think a better case to analyse would be one where the boat claiming to have gained an overlap in time proves his claim on the balance of probabilities but fails to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. Say we have two single handers with conflicting claims. The one claiming an overlap was achieved in time, has a witness that is not in line with the transom of the lead boat but has a fairly good view of the boats positioning as viewed at an angle. The other boat has no witnesses. On a balance of probabilities I would say this is enough to shift the needle over 50% in favour of the boat claiming an overlap in time.  But since viewing from an angle can easily lead to errors in determining accurately the existence of an overlap, there is a reasonable possibility that the witness is wrong and therefore there is at least a reasonable doubt that the overlap was obtained in time.
    Today 07:20
  • Oh, hooray! "Certified safety boat operators." Yet another opportunity for USSailing to bar highly experienced yachtsmen from serving in vital roles in sailing, together with education and race management, solely because they are too focused on careers and adult life to attend redundant, fee-based certification regimens.
    Today 06:16
  • What a great Christmas Bonbon you gave us Mark! It's a Cracker!

    There have been many incredibly insightful comments but no agreed conclusion.

    Personally I like Jim's recent summary of "Angelo's interpretation" as it appears to be the fairest interpretation.

    To me, the underlying problem appears to be that the rules themselves are not 'deterministic' in this and some other situations. Ultimately, the rules alone should be sufficient. Cases may help but they should not be required.

    Today 01:11
  • At my Club we have solved this issue two ways.  Most of our distance random-leg races finish in front of the Clubhouse, between two pilings lined up with our "Finish Hut" on shore.

    For our weeknight series where we run five starts for eight Divisions in the 1830-1900 timeframe, we state that a boat in a starting class that finishes by 2100 makes the race valid for that starting class, and that boats finishing after 2100 shall take their own finish time and report it to the RC.  If no boat in a starting class finishes by 2100 then the race is abandoned for that class.  This allows our RC volunteers to know when their job is completed, without penalizing slow boats.

    Similarly for our regatta distance races, typically 20-25 nm, we state that there is no time limit, but the RC will stay on station (ashore) for five hours from the starting time.  Boats finishing later may take their own times and report it to the RC.   We implemented this about three years ago and have had no issues.
    Yesterday 14:57
  • One advantage of defining the line as 2 separate segments is that the line on each side of the mid-line vessel to not have to be the same. You can adjust the lines on each side so that they are suitable for the existing conditions. On a long line it may well be that wind or tide will not be uniform over the full length of the line.
    Yesterday 10:28

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