• Rule 19 - "Pass' vs 'Avoid' Language
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  Colin Mann Today 01:01
• Shortened Course
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  David Keeling Yesterday 02:24
• An error in Appendix E 6.3 in the RRS 2025-2028
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  John Ball Mon 11:22
• Two boats crabbing simultaneously & definition of head to wind
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  Al Sargent Mon 01:20
• "A proper look-out by sight and hearing....."
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  Catalan Benaros 26-Mar-27 14:07

• Rule 19 - "Pass' vs 'Avoid' Language
  I agree that Blue breaks rule 19.2, but I'm not sure much of this discussion has addressed Colin's original question, which was about the meaning of the word "pass".  I think his point is that after Blue jibes she is now sailing alongside another boat at the same speed and, therefore, not passing that boat in the ordinary sense of the word. 
  
  I agree with Colin that "pass" is the wrong word.  What we really mean by "pass", in this context, is something like "sail alongside or past" the obstruction. But I can't think of any reasonable way to replace it in the context of rule 19. It's clear from the discussion above that at least in this forum no one even notices the problem he brought up, but simply assumes that Blue is passing Yellow at position 4. So I guess maybe there is no practical problem with this missuse of the language, though I agree that if someone were to propose a better word, we could change the wording of the rule. 
  
  Colin? You brought this up ...
  Rob Overton Today 20:43
• Shortened Course
  I think the approach I've seen used is to tell them they have been finished on the previous lap. (Legally or illegally)
  
  I still think if we see the SIs it will clarify the situation with a phrase like 'The Race Officer may decide to finish boats at any time at his discretion. This may not be the lead boat, but results will be calculated on average lap time to ensure fairness, the aim being to keep the finishing window as short  as practicable' (I selected that frome Penzance Sailing Club who used it for handicap and non-handicap fleets) or from my club 'For a committee boat finish, flag S will be displayed on the committee boat accompanied by two sound signals. For a shore-based finish, two sound signals will be made. Boats will finish the race when they next pass through the start / finish line. Finishing position shall be determined on an average lap basis.'
  
  (Clearly purists will say start/finish line shouldn't be mentioned - but for an average club sailor that's clear and easier to understand than describing a gate. And for the even more purist, a Committee Boat should be called a signal vessel but I can say with certainty the club sailors know what a committee boat is and will think I've lost the plot if I say signal vessel.)
  Calum Polwart Today 14:40
• Two boats crabbing simultaneously & definition of head to wind
  I think I can quickly prove to you that we reference points of sail based on true wind. Two pronged argument:
  1) Wikipedia repeatedly references "true wind" in their entry on Point of Sail: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_of_sail#No-go_zone
  2) when foiling boats are going downwind and their apparent wind angle is a near reach, we do not describe them as near-reaching, nor as being on a beat to windward. If they briefly point directly downwind, and their sails luff from the bow due to the apparent wind, we would never suggest they were head-to-wind. 
  Niko Kotsatos Yesterday 13:58
• An error in Appendix E 6.3 in the RRS 2025-2028
  It is simpler and more direct to add to radio sailing NOR or SI:
  "A protesting boat shall inform the other boat at the first opportunity. This adds to E6.3."
  
  
  Philip Hubbell Wed 18:20
• "A proper look-out by sight and hearing....."
  There's nothing very unique about solo races in that respect. Take for example the Solong/Stena incident where an anchored tanker was hit in reasonable visibility  by another ship under autopilot. The captain is temporarily hosted at one of his Majesty's facilities.
  https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/67f3dd5c53505b2ca44eff1a/Solong-StenaImmaculate-InterimReport.pdf
  
  
  Jim Champ Sat 18:13

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