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  • What a great Christmas Bonbon you gave us Mark! It's a Cracker!

    There have been many incredibly insightful comments but no agreed conclusion.

    Personally I like Jim's recent summary of "Angelo's interpretation" as it appears to be the fairest interpretation.

    To me, the underlying problem appears to be that the rules themselves are not 'deterministic' in this and some other situations. Ultimately, the rules alone should be sufficient. Cases may help but they should not be required.

    Today 01:11
  • Thanks. 
    Today 00:04
  • At my Club we have solved this issue two ways.  Most of our distance random-leg races finish in front of the Clubhouse, between two pilings lined up with our "Finish Hut" on shore.

    For our weeknight series where we run five starts for eight Divisions in the 1830-1900 timeframe, we state that a boat in a starting class that finishes by 2100 makes the race valid for that starting class, and that boats finishing after 2100 shall take their own finish time and report it to the RC.  If no boat in a starting class finishes by 2100 then the race is abandoned for that class.  This allows our RC volunteers to know when their job is completed, without penalizing slow boats.

    Similarly for our regatta distance races, typically 20-25 nm, we state that there is no time limit, but the RC will stay on station (ashore) for five hours from the starting time.  Boats finishing later may take their own times and report it to the RC.   We implemented this about three years ago and have had no issues.
    Yesterday 14:57
  • Reasonable doubt: A reasonable doubt can be defined as a doubt based upon reason and common sense and not based purely on speculation. It may arise from a careful and impartial consideration of all the evidence, or from lack of evidence.

    The classic situation in a hearing is that there is no clear evidence that an overlap was established or broken. One was of resolving this is to establish the last point of certainty ( generally when both parties agree on the relative positions of their boats). On occasions this may be which boat passed the last mark ahead!

    Having established the last point of certainty, as there is no evidence that this situation has changed, then 18.2(e) allows us to apply this situation to resolving the incident.

    Yesterday 13:51
  • One advantage of defining the line as 2 separate segments is that the line on each side of the mid-line vessel to not have to be the same. You can adjust the lines on each side so that they are suitable for the existing conditions. On a long line it may well be that wind or tide will not be uniform over the full length of the line.
    Yesterday 10:28

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