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I Flag Start, When must Flag X be displayed

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John Allan
Nationality: Australia
Certifications:
  • National Race Officer
  • National Judge
RRS 29.1 states

29.1 Individual Recall
When at a boat’s starting signal any part of her hull is on the course side of the starting line or she must comply with rule 30.1, the race committee shall promptly display flag X with one sound.

RRS 30.1 states

30.1 I Flag Rule
If flag I has been displayed, and any part of a boat’s hull is on the course side of the starting line or one of its extensions during the last minute before her starting signal, she shall sail across an extension so that her hull is completely on the pre-start side before she starts.


With an I flag start, if the race committee observes a boat on the course side of the starting line or its extensions after the 1 minute signal but before the starting signal, when must the race committee display the I flag?
Created: Today 09:56

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Nick Hutton
Nationality: Australia
Certifications:
  • International Race Officer
First, assuming you mean 29.1 in the header not 28.1? RRS 29.1 is clear that the X Ray and additional sound is at the start signal. A competitor in breach of 30.1 has until the start to cross an extension so the RC does not have to display X Ray until the start signal arrives and the competitor has not exonerated him/herself. If the competitor crosses the starting line within the last minute before the start and returns to the pre-start side via an extension in the last minute no signal required. 
Supplementary question: Who uses India and why? 
Created: Today 10:22
Anthony Mercurio
Certifications:
  • Club Race Officer
  • Judge In Training
Agree. 
Created: Today 10:24
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John Allan
Nationality: Australia
Certifications:
  • National Race Officer
  • National Judge
Nick,  First, thanks for the correction to the rule reference.  Corrected in OP.

I don't think that 'RRS 29.1 is clear that the X Ray and additional sound is at the start signal' when Flag I is displayed.  Otherwise I wouldn't have asked the question.

It appears to me that a boat's obligation to comply with RRS 30.1 and sail back across an extension, begins at the time the race committee observes her on the course side, and RRS 29.1 provides that 'When ... [a boat] must comply with RRS 30.1 the race committee shall promptly display Flag X ... .
Created: Today 10:33
Walter Stemberger
Nationality: Croatia
Certifications:
  • National Race Officer
  • National Judge
Reply to: 21933 - John Allan
The rules are clear defining "When": at starting signal.
On I flag, the RC committee has to react also on boats over the extensions.
Created: Today 11:10
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Angelo Guarino
Forum Moderator
Nationality: United States
Certifications:
  • Regional Judge
Reply to: 21933 - John Allan
Walter .. "The rules are clear ..."

Not so fast .. John's got a point.  Here is 29.1 separated to make John's question  clearer. 

29.1 Individual Recall
When at a boat’s starting signal any part of her hull is on the course side of the starting line 

or 

she must comply with rule 30.1, 

the race committee shall promptly display flag X with one sound.

The above can be easily read in such a way that as soon as ("when") a boat must comply with 30.1, the RC shall signal.  

The way we customarily read 29.1 is as if it it said ... 

29.1 Individual Recall
When
at a boat’s starting signal any part of her [a boat's] hull is on the course side of the starting line [at the starting signal,] or she must comply with rule 30.1, the race committee shall promptly display flag X with one sound [at the starting signal]. 

.. but that's not what's written. 
Created: Today 11:48
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