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Rule 18 and Room at the Mark

Sail proper course in the zone without interference

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Ólafur Bjarnason
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In this scenario Yellow and Green are sailing downwind on port tacks.  They must round a mark to port in light wind.  When Yellow enters the zone, she is clear ahead of Green. When Green (2) entering the zone Yellow is rounding the mark and tacks to starboard. Yellow (3) sail on starboard tack and Green (3) had to heads up to avoid Yellow. There was no contact put, Yellow (4) hit the mark and took a one penalty turn.

Is Yellow required to give mark-room to Green so she can sail  their proper course without interference from Yellow?


Created: Today 17:08

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Angelo Guarino
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Olafur, the scenario looks more straight forward to me.  

  1. Yellow is entitled to MR from Green from before pos 1 (when she entered the zone) thru pos 2.5
  2. At pos2.5, Yellow passed HTW, her MR ends under 18.2(b)
  3. From pos 2.5-3.0 Yellow is KC boat under RRS13
  4. From pos 2.5-3, Green (ROW under 13) alters course to avoid Yellow. 
  5. Yellow breaks RRS 13 and is not exonerated. 
Created: Today 17:18
John Ball
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Mark room does not apply to one boat leaving the mark and another approaching the mark - so mark room for yellow ends once she passes the mark (and before she tacks). So R 18 and proper course do not apply - so R 13 and R 10 are applicable and then R 15 as ROW changes - Angelo thinks Yellow broke R 13 at around P2.5. I would add that Yellow breaks R 15 even if she did not break R 13.

John
Created: Today 17:29
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Anthony Pelletier
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I won't repeat what Angelo said. Rule 18 turns off as soon yellow leaves the mark clear astern, whether she tacks or not. 
I cannot tell from the diagram whether green has to alter course before yellow has born off to close hauled. If it is established as a fact that she did, then Angelo is correct.
But, even if yellow completes the tack before green has to alter course, there is still rule 15 to deal with. 
After yellow has completed the tack, she "initially" owes green room to keep clear (which green apparently does get) AND room to comply with the other rules of part two and rule 31 (avoiding hitting the mark). 
It does not appear that sufficient room was given for green to comply with rule 31, by maneuvering promptly in a seamanlike manner. 
If the facts found are that the tack is completed in time, the PC could still DSQ yellow for breaking rule 15. 
Created: Today 17:39
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Angelo Guarino
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Anthony, I don't agree with your RRS 15 analysis relative to the mark.

Yellow does not owe Green any mark-room.   After position 3, Green chooses to turn back toward the mark to attempt to round it on its proper side .. she was not compelled to do that and was not owed room by Yellow to do so. 

I think it's clear, based on the drawing, Green altered course before Yellow completed her tack.  There is no contact and there is no claim that Green maneuvered in an unseamanlike way. Therefore IMO 15 was not broken by Yellow.  Green had room and used that room to keep clear once Yellow completed her tack (after Yellow broke 13). 

OK .. for the sake of argument, let's say that Yellow DOES complete her tack before Green alters course ... and Green is able to keep clear in a seamanlike way .. what then?  If that tack was clean .. and Green could keep clear in a seamanlike way ... I don't see Yellow breaking a rule. 

PS: Unless u argue that is Yellow was not sailing her proper course by tacking.  Then one might apply RRS 23.2 Interfernce as they are sailing on different legs of the course. 
Created: Today 18:01
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