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Why do you handle DNC with different points? A5.2 does not discern there. Number of entries +1
If A5.3 is active then there is a difference between DNC and the rest. Each given DNC effectively reduces the points for the other disqualifications. Is +2 for DNC something that is widely changed in the event documents?
BFDs are excludable only DNE is not.Hans Cimutta Today 09:40 -
Looks clearly like no surfing poasible here.Michael Butterfield Today 09:22
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Thanks Ben ... yea .. you asked how the reasoning would go and I obliged :-)Angelo Guarino Tue 17:05
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MIke ' There is really no such thing here as a rule 2 protest, there is a protest where rule 2 may be considered',
I don't think this is quite right. It is making a RRS 2 protest look like a RRS 69 hearing which it is not.
I agree that a breach of RRS 2 that affects the fairness of the competition on the water will usually be accompanied by a breach of Part 2, but even if it is not, a breach of sportsmanship that affects the fairness of the competition is nevertheless an incident in the racing area and requires a hail of 'protest' and if necessary display of a flag.In match racing there would be a double penalty, a bit like rule 2
Agree, and in OP case, I think we have- 'B also turned down to weather of A. A hailed B to keep up. B responded by trying to duck down below the the line causing A to avoid contact. Demonstrates intention.
- ' The helmsman on the boat replied if they stayed up both boats would be OCS and continued to turn down.' Demonstrates to gain advantage.
Boat B broke RRS 2. RRS 36(b) does not exempt a RRS 2 breach. On valid protest B should be DNE.John Allan Tue 00:57 -
A lot of chat for a rather simple case.
To me... there are 2 halves to OPs question...
1st half - was Red racing? Yes. Her stern was still on the finish line when she broke rule 10.
2nd half - Did Red tack and gybe in accordance with 44.2...namely 'promptly' after the incident? This question is subject to the protest system, just like any other allegation of a breach of a rule not exonerated.
So the RC registers her second crossing i.a.w. Finish (a), and if anyone (RC or another boat) is unhappy about it, they can protest her for not exonerating 'promptly'. Otherwise her 2nd crossing finish stands.
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As for the r23.1 discussion, Racing is a time-block from time-a to time-b. Once you pass time-b it's over. You can't restart. If Red had met the interpretation of Case 127, then she was past time-b. Not racing.
If a boat not racing breaks a rule, then apply RRS 60.5(c)
If a boat has broken a rule when not racing, her penalty shall apply to the race sailed nearest in time to the incident.
What am I missing?Benjamin Harding Fri 09:07