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I still have a problem on Rule 2 which I can't see answered by this very good and comprehensive document. My problem is that since 1/1/17 we have the choice of penalizing a breach of this rule either by DSQ or DNE - previously we only had the choice of DNE. Since the start of the year I have been trying to get a handle on when to use DNE and when to use DSQ and other than some rather vague idea that "it depends on the seriousness of the breach" I am none the wiser.
I have most frequently penalized a boat under this rule when in a protest hearing a boat admits that she knew she broke a rule but didn't take a penalty - usually on the basis that she thought she would get away with it. I would welcome opinions as to whether or not I should increase the DSQ for breaking the rule in question to DNE for also breaking rule 2. In the past there was no doubt that this should be done.
Created: 17-Jun-29 07:57
Paul Pascoe
Nationality: Australia
Certifications:
International Judge
National Race Officer
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I was at Kiel last week and we had a discussion on what people thought would constitute a DSQ or a DNE. With 22 Judges (probably 15 IJs and 7 NJs) in the room, the view was unanimous that almost any infringement of Rule 2 would be a DNE, and in particular the scenario that you mention in your post would be a DNE. We couldn't think of any situation where a DSQ would be appropriate, but obviously someone did to get this changed.
So our view was that any Rule 2 at the event would be DNE unless some exceptional circumstance arose, although none of us could articulate what this might be.
Created: 17-Jul-05 05:29
Bill Handley
Nationality: United Kingdom
Certifications:
National Judge
0
Paul - thanks for this which very much confirms my own thoughts on the matter.
Created: 17-Jul-05 06:19
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I have most frequently penalized a boat under this rule when in a protest hearing a boat admits that she knew she broke a rule but didn't take a penalty - usually on the basis that she thought she would get away with it. I would welcome opinions as to whether or not I should increase the DSQ for breaking the rule in question to DNE for also breaking rule 2. In the past there was no doubt that this should be done.
So our view was that any Rule 2 at the event would be DNE unless some exceptional circumstance arose, although none of us could articulate what this might be.