Forum: The Racing Rules of Sailing

Discretionary Penalties

J. Conal (Con) Lancaster
Nationality: United States of America
Certifications:
  • Club Race Officer
  • Club Judge
In INTRODUCTION of the rules, discretionary penalty [DP] is described and guidelines for them refer to the World Sailing website. I need help because I can't find any guidelines on the site and I couldn't find help in the World Sailing Judges Manual either. What am I missing? 
Created: 22-Jan-23 03:19

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Andrew Alberti
Nationality: Canada
Certifications:
  • National Judge
  • National Umpire
2
They are in a document called Jury Policies https://www.sailing.org/41703.php

Created: 22-Jan-23 03:30
Graham Louth
Nationality: United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Certifications:
  • International Judge
  • Umpire In Training
  • National Race Officer
2
Which can be found (along with other useful docs) in the International Judges Document Library: https://www.sailing.org/raceofficials/internationaljudge/document_library.php
Created: 22-Jan-23 09:20
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Angelo Guarino
Nationality: United States of America
Certifications:
  • Regional Judge
  • Fleet Measurer
0
Huh … found this interesting … from the Race Mgmt Policy

12.1 Flag I (RRS30.1) and Flag Z (RRS30.2) will not be used.
Created: 22-Jan-23 14:25
J. Conal (Con) Lancaster
Nationality: United States of America
Certifications:
  • Club Race Officer
  • Club Judge
0
Thank you Andrew and Graham. Great sources of information. I learn something new every time I look at this forum.
Ange, I observed this at a recent International event and I thought it was harsh not to give the competitors at least one chance at "I". It ended up on the first day of the regatta a very strong current was setting the fleet over the line causing crowding and stalling at the gun. One of the very serious contenders for the regatta was "UFD" two or three times the first day. Any idea why this would be a policy?
Created: 22-Jan-23 18:50
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Angelo Guarino
Nationality: United States of America
Certifications:
  • Regional Judge
  • Fleet Measurer
0
Any IRO’s on the forum who can weigh in on the reasoning behind WS wishing to exclude 30.1 and 30.2 from their events?
Created: 22-Jan-26 13:20
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John Allan
Nationality: Australia
Certifications:
  • National Judge
  • Regional Race Officer
1
I'm not an IRO, but I can offer explanations.

I Flag.  Despite being referred to as a 'penalty', an I Flag start is not a penalty:  it is a 'traffic control measure', which decongests an unavoidably crowded starting line, and can facilitate accounting for OCS boats returning.  It has undesirable consequences on other than a short starting line, in it induces boats to crowd the ends, because the middle of the line, does incur a penalty on an OCS boat in having to sail further towards the ends, than boats nearer the ends.

Z Flag.  Olympic and WS Championship events are predominatly one desigh, and given the marketing department's insistence on instant gratification, there is no point in replacing turns penalties, the effect of which is immediately apparent on the water, with scoring penalties, which require after race calculation. 
Created: 22-Feb-12 21:53
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