Forum: The Racing Rules of Sailing

RRS A8

Han Kim
Nationality: Korea (Republic of)
In RRS A8 SERIES TIES, what is a series? 
If there was a series of inshore races and 2 offshore races, and the NOR stated for ties they would follow RRS A8, can the series of inshore races and the two offshore races be regarded as a series?
Or do series mean same type of races?
Also, if there was a series of inshore races and 2 offshore races and if the organizers wish to follow RRS A8 how shoudl they score?
Should they score each inshore race individually and then include the 2 offshore races OR can they use the overall score of the series of inshore races as one rank and calculate the score of the 2 offshore score?
Thank you!!
Created: 21-Nov-08 13:18

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John D. Farris
Nationality: United States of America
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  • Club Race Officer
  • Umpire In Training
  • Club Judge
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Need to see what the NOR and SI state (RRS A1)
Created: 21-Nov-08 13:30
Matt Bounds
Nationality: United States of America
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  • National Judge
  • National Race Officer
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It depends on how the event is to be scored.  If there are two or more races scored together, then that is a series.  In your example, the inshore races would separately constitute a series as would the offshore races - and if the inshore races are scored together with the offshore races, they would all be one series.

As John says, it all depends on how the NoR and SIs describe the scoring.
Created: 21-Nov-08 13:44
John Fothergill
Nationality: United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
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  • National Race Officer
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I'd agree with those responses - with perhaps the rather obvious caveat that all the races in the series have to be open to the same set of competitors. Personally, I think it would seem reasonable that there should be some sort of rationale behind grouping races so that they are called a series - but that's probably not necessary from the RRS point of view.  
Created: 21-Nov-08 14:37
Mark Evans
Nationality: Canada
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RRS J 1.1(6) NOR states # of races.  
Refer to your NOR to examine if the inshore and off shore were included in the "series"?
Created: 21-Nov-08 19:46
Han Kim
Nationality: Korea (Republic of)
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Thank you so much. There was not much information on the NOR but as John stated, there should be some kind of rationale either they score all the races inshore 1 ~ 3 and offshore 1 & 2 or they score using the inshore rank and offshore rank. I learned a lot thank you! 
Created: 21-Nov-09 02:29
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John Allan
Nationality: Australia
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  • Regional Race Officer
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There is no rule in the RRS that suggests that all races in a series should be of the same type. 

Were all five races listed in one NOR?

If so, unless the NOR expressly stated that there were more than one series, it would look like they formed one series. 
Created: 21-Nov-09 06:59
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Angelo Guarino
Nationality: United States of America
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FWIW, I've seen it handled different ways depending on the desires of the OA/RC.    We used to have a "series" that included 2 days of drop-mark courses (usually about 5-6 races) and then 1 day of a "distance" race (usually 20-25 nm winds permitting).  One SI multiplied the distance race by a factor (say 1.5x-2x) to give the distance race more weight in the series total.
Created: 21-Nov-11 13:37
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