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  • You validate my point.
    Today 16:53
  • I've also used this mid-line "guide" buoy. On the one hand it works. On the other hand, the less experienced sailors basically get penalized for using the guide, and it backfired the last race after all the coaches finally told their kids: "if you're not out past that buoy, then you're late!"
    Today 15:35
  • Thanks  Bob and an acute or sharp pencil scenario at that, and I would be inclined to agree with you. As such, to my original point, the leaning on this scenrio would be that we do in fact have a third standard of proof for a PC to consider (for 18.2 (e) and APPENDIX F).
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    Today 09:54
  • What a great Christmas Bonbon you gave us Mark! It's a Cracker!

    There have been many incredibly insightful comments but no agreed conclusion.

    Personally I like Jim's recent summary of "Angelo's interpretation" as it appears to be the fairest interpretation.

    To me, the underlying problem appears to be that the rules themselves are not 'deterministic' in this and some other situations. Ultimately, the rules alone should be sufficient. Cases may help but they should not be required.

    Today 01:11
  • At my Club we have solved this issue two ways.  Most of our distance random-leg races finish in front of the Clubhouse, between two pilings lined up with our "Finish Hut" on shore.

    For our weeknight series where we run five starts for eight Divisions in the 1830-1900 timeframe, we state that a boat in a starting class that finishes by 2100 makes the race valid for that starting class, and that boats finishing after 2100 shall take their own finish time and report it to the RC.  If no boat in a starting class finishes by 2100 then the race is abandoned for that class.  This allows our RC volunteers to know when their job is completed, without penalizing slow boats.

    Similarly for our regatta distance races, typically 20-25 nm, we state that there is no time limit, but the RC will stay on station (ashore) for five hours from the starting time.  Boats finishing later may take their own times and report it to the RC.   We implemented this about three years ago and have had no issues.
    Yesterday 14:57

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