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• Mark-Room and Room to Pass an Obstruction who wins.
  Tim
  
  Yes, PE cannot choose how rule 19 will play.
  It is SR as ROW that may choose on which side she passes the obstruction (19.2.a).
  But as consequence, as the outside boat she has to give room to PE, the inside boat (19.2.b).
  
  Nevertheless, when PE takes the room she is entitled to under rule 19, she gets in trouble for not giving mark-room under rule 18.
  Jonah Dekeyzer Today 23:17
• Rule 55.2 One Spinnaker Pole or Two?
  Gary, the issue is not whether the spinnaker is asymmetric or not. It is about the attachment of the pole to the sheet or clew of the spinnaker (RRS 55.3).
  
  Old sailors might say 'one clew of the sail must fly free'.
  
  In your 18 footer illustration, the tack of the spinnaker is on the pole, however complicated the guying/bracing arrangement of the pole may be, but the clew and the sheet are not attached to anything exerting outward pressure.
  John Allan Today 23:14
• 1.1 Helping Those in Danger and Redress Race Time Adjustment

  John  Y QUERY: in the above event and had we continued on to finish the race, and successfully sought redress accordingly (Rule 61.4 (b) (4), how would our race time be then adjusted – by what means of calculation (e.g. given the same place as we were prior to the incident, or by prorate of our time on the first half extrapolated to the second half, or otherwise)? 

  
  RRS 61.4(c) provides (emphasis added)
  
  If a boat is entitled to redress, the protest committee shall make as fair an arrangement as possible for all boats affected, whether or not they asked for redress. This may be to adjust the scoring (see rule A9 for examples) or finishing times of boats, to abandon the race, to let the results stand or to make some other arrangement.
  
  I suggest that the protest committee should take all relevant evidence and then find a fact as to their best estimate of the actual (or possibly minimum or maximum) time lost by the boat entitled to redress, erring on the side of generosity in order to encourage compliance with RRS 1.1, and adjust the entitled boat's finishing time by that amount.
  
  In the event of a boat retiring in order to comply with a SOLAS obligation, then I think the protest committee might consider giving average points.
  John Allan Today 23:08
• "Rules Governing the Duration of Flag D Display Ashore Before Start"
  Andreas, I don't agree that illustrations of flags used should not be included in SI.
  
  RRS Race Signals includes pictures of all flags referred to.  That indicates that the SI, when prescribing a new flag signal may do the same.
  
  I've frequently seen flags to be used, and actual marks, being displayed at Competitors' Briefings.
  
  Why is this a bad practice?
  John Allan Today 22:37
• Appointment of an Investigator
  That’s fair enough too of course thanks Jim…
  
  

  On your final point, as I read it - STEPS: 1. PC (shall have at least three members) considers allegation of a breach of rule 69.1(a) (PC shall consider & decide whether or not to call a hearing). 2. in considering, if PC needs more information for the decision to call a hearing, it shall consider appointing a person or persons to conduct an investigation (investigator s) produce ‘a report’ of sorts for PC, and shall be disclosed to the PC for their considerations), 3. Hearing Decided (a Rule 69 hearing shall not be combined with any other type of hearing): if the protest committee decides to call a hearing, all relevant information gathered by the investigator, favourable or unfavorable, shall also be disclosed to the parties.
  John Quirk Wed 08:33

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