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  • Hey Phil,

    There was contact between a windward and leeward boat. L did not alter course. Thus prima facie , Rule 11 was breached by W.

    Then the question is, can W avoid being penalized for a breach of Rule 11 because Case 77 advises us that
    " A boat obligated to keep clear does not break a rule when touched by a right-of-way boat’s equipment that moves unexpectedly out of normal position"

    If a party goes into the room claiming they kept clear of a leeward boat, that touched them without altering course, and their defense is that they think they were a boat length apart.......Honestly, it is not going to go well for them. They need to make a case based on 77. 
    It is then up to the judges to appraise the credibility of the testimony. 
    Today 18:50
  • We have had this come up a few times at our club and have defined the winner of the trophy/prize/money as the person who entered the boat and paid the entry fee.

    • A Club enters a boat, and the boat wins the prize, the club takes the prize.

    • A skipper enters a boat, and the boat wins the skipper takes the prize.

    • A sponsor enters a boat, and the boat wins the sponsor takes the prize. etc

    It is a good idea to set this out in NOR so that it is clear, especially when there is a large sum of money riding on the prize.



    Today 16:41
  • Michael, yea ... thats a great format for longer range planing .. but having a very simple table with the following is key 


    Set TWD (mag)
    Leg#  Mrk1 Mrk2 Bearing TWA(p/s)  Dist

    That could easily fit width wise on a phone. 

    When setting the marks, if they are govt marks hyperlinking to details regards bells/flash height etc .. avail as a pop-up will keep the list clean. 

    Yesterday 15:31
  • Richard, thank you for your open minded response, but i agree with Sue that relaxing the promptness of the hail and RRS 44 penalty requirements would be undesirable.

    One of the purposes of the suggestion was to reinforce the requirements for prompt hail and prompt response.

    If you let go of those requirements you will get into all sorts of disputes about:
    • what incident the hail referred to,
    • whether the hailed boat ever took a penalty for that incident, and
    • whether there was advantage.
    Tue 14:31
  • AIUI the purpose of making the respondent (not a word in this RRS) field mandatory is that the system automatically messages that entity that they are the subject of a hearing.  Naming a boat there will make it appear that that boat has been protested.

    Wouldn't a better solution for requests fo  redress be to either omit the respondent field or make it non mandatory, and message the race committee that a request has been received in every case?
    Tue 14:20
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