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  • Thanks Satish.

    Since you have reached a Case 50  conclusion so clearly, can you address these points I have.

    1.  Yes, there was apprehension but what makes it so clearly 'reasonable'?

    2.  Where in Case 50 (or the rest of the Casebook) does it suggest that Case 50-Reasonable apprehension  can be applied in rule 11 situations?

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    Niko, 

    I'm still thinking about your post. Actually, I'm not sure you can presume that W was not in control simply because her move was hard and tightly timed.

    I think the problem is my word 'just'. Let's just take it out.

    Just before she thinks that RoW may need to act to avoid contact, W acts by luffing hard.

    Meanwhile, can you think of any time RoW had no need to take avoiding action, but still have a reasonable application...? Or are the two mutually exclusive? 
    Today 23:53
  • Beau ... here is maybe how I'd look it.

    Let's say for the sake of argument that a boat doing 1/2 of a roll tack from a standstill is going to be hard to enforce.  So .. let's say 1/2 roll tack that is part of a boat's "start" is going to be not called. So what are the components of that?

    1. Done last secs before/at/after the gun
    2. Done once
    3. After the maneuver, the boat assumes an upwind beat posture and sails up wind

    So, when does one call it?  When those elements are not present. 

    1. Not done during the final maneuver that results in the boat starting
      1. Doing this 15 sec before the gun and then back winding the sail is a dead give away
    2. Done more than once. 
    Today 19:25
  • Given your distinction between "avoid" and "pass", how would that factor in if you took almost the same scenario, but yellow was moving slowly, or almost stationary, and blue "ended up" quickly passing yellow.   How would all involved be able to actually make that determination (of whether they would pass or not) when they are at the decision point.  I think the answer is "you can't".  

    I do find it curious the interpretation of "may" that might imply a 3rd option of "not choosing".   To me it still seems like the importance is on the choice of sides and not the distinction between "pass" and "avoid" or the exact interpretation of "pass".  You can clearly and in advance, choose the side you want the obstruction to pass you on, but it is harder to determine if it will actually result in "passing".

    What if the rule read: " ... boat may choose to pass or avoid an obstruction on her ...".

    Chris


    Today 18:10
  • "If the details included remove any ambiguity about which incident the delivered protest is referring to"
    Clear as mud.
    Does not answer the question.
    Today 15:30
  • Yes we've used W finishes for many fleet events.  It works well for the back of the fleet. Not entirely sure the front of the fleet would be thrilled at having it used if they weren't 100% sure they were being recorded at the front.

    I realise handicap racing is not popular on this board. For reference - W finishes are not appropriate in handicap races as you need to adjust time and 'distance' (laps).
    Tue 06:37
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