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Recent Comments
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Tom .. I like John A's framing. That's a good place to start. The guidance on that question from MNA's depends on where you look, as RYA and USS diverge a bit at a core concept.
RYA has RYA 1999/1 where Q/A-1 states .. (RYA Casebook)QUESTION 1
When the rules require a boat to display a protest flag in order for a protest to be valid, should the protest committee expect a competitor to have the protest flag ready to use, or is it reasonable in a larger boat to keep it below or in a locker, and fetch it when needed? If not, how many seconds does a boat have before the first reasonable opportunity may be said to have passed?
ANSWER 1
A protest committee should expect a competitor to have a protest flag close at hand. Where it is kept is not important, but if its location delays its display significantly, as it is likely to do if kept below, and there was some other more quickly accessible
place where it could have been kept, then it will not have been displayed at the first reasonable opportunity. No particular time
for displaying the protest flag can be specified. The longer the time between the incident and the display of the protest flag, the more closely the protest committee should examine the circumstances to see if the first reasonable opportunity had clearly
passed.
USS has Appeal US124 which contemplates and accepts the idea that the flag is stowed someplace that might take time to get, but doesn't allow delay fetching and displaying it when a crew is not otherwise occupied. This "not otherwise occupied" concept comes from reading US124 together with US67 and US82.
So RYA 1999/1, USA124, 67 & 82 taken together can provide a nice framework.Angelo Guarino Today 11:31 -
Bullseye. H12 hull with an aluminum marconi rig, cuddy cabin deck layout, half wishboom.Niko Kotsatos Yesterday 18:13
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Ang, I think asking someone to do something, is probably ok, but the line is crossed when the protest chair starts 'statement taking' writing down what a witness says, taking possession of videos, and seeking out witnesses.John Allan Yesterday 14:29
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Nice work on the AI summary ;-)David Taylor Yesterday 00:00
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G is plodding along downwind, trailing, setting up for a routine port tack rounding. She should be set up for a windward drop, maybe with the pole off, in which case she will have no problem gybing back after luffing to keep clear of Y, or maybe she will still have the pole up: if she leaves the pole up too long after the drop, she'll be in trouble. Dropping the pole quickly and tacking the headsail over the pole requires people to know what and how to do it. I think that is right on the cusp of 'competent but not expert', but maybe it's a little on the 'very competent' side.
I know this isn't relevant to the question, but I agree with this analysis but take it one step further. If it was a dipole boat, Blue's pole would be in the process of coming off at position 2. When Yellow starts the tack, Blue jibes onto starboard and starts dousing the spinnaker on the port side, crosses in front of Yellow, then jibes back. This sets up a faster rounding (wide to tight) for Blue. I also agree this would need a 'very competent' crew.Ian Morrison Mon 13:58