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  Mark Townsend Yesterday 18:39
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• Is There a Case in the Future for A Less-Formal Meditation Process
  Once again, thank you everyone for your gracious contributions and informative critical inputs (and I for one have gained a much fuller understanding of RRS Appendix T Arbitration and its operation).
  
  I think that what I shall do now in my spare time, over the course of the coming Sailing Season 3 here, is to: tabulate all of the salient comments from all contributors hereto , and attempt to develop a full internal ‘mock-up’ of an Appendix U – Mediation (verbiage & diagrammatic fashion) -  just to keep it ‘clean’ from Appendix T (leaning also into other industry sectors – research what exactly has been done on it in the sailing world), and progressively discuss it with our Chief Judge here (and other IJs as they come here) – if at the end of that internal review cycle we feel that it ‘has some legs’ I will recycle it back into this forum (or just put it into the ‘round filing bin’ 😊).
  
  

  Finally, I must say that in my professional working life, I was always been more one to ‘go straight to Court’, unless a particular construction contract stipulated Arbitration or a client demanded Mediation. Also, from my vantage point, the two sailing seasons with the protest committee here have gone very well and efficiently indeed, under the high leadership and expertise of our Chief Judge.
  
  

  As such, I am certainly no ‘champion’ of Mediation but am keeping an open mind , thinking ‘out of the box’, and do my impartial best, as has been suggested to me. For sure there is quite some observable cultural discomfort with ‘the Room’ (which could take generations to change to otherwise) in developing nation countries like here and also budgets are sparser too – I have also spoken and promoted to several smaller yacht clubs about coming onboard with World Sailing / RRS, but they say the overall costs are too great. Hence, perhaps it’s not a matter of ‘one size fits all’, and alternatives could also be offered for the future growth of sailing around the world accordingly.
  
  
  John Quirk Today 09:04
• Does a competitor "see the incident" if they see it on a video?
  Mike does raise an interesting point.
  
  What if instead of alleging a breach of a rule of Part 2 or rule 31, the protest alleges a breach of rule 2. As the boat is alleging a breach of a rule of Part 1, rule 60.4(a)(2) does not apply, so we avoid that problem. 

  
  A competitor watching a replay of the start sees two boats make contact. Neither boat takes a penalty although it is clear from the video that there was contact. The competitor notifies both parties and files a hearing request within the time limit alleging that both boats knowingly broke a rule and neither took an appropriate penalty or action.

  
  
  Mark Townsend Yesterday 23:14
• Class breaks in handicap racing
  No handicap/rating system is 'fair'. There will always be loopholes, boats that are advantaged or disadvantaged by the system.
  One way to limit this is to use more than one handicap/rating system simultaneously. In Ireland, boats race under ECHO (a PHRF type system, with ratings modified according to a boat's performance in the previous race) and IRC (a measurement based system). Some classes for instance the J109s) even sail using Scratch, ECHO and IRC. There is a move to introduce ORC: at least in part because the J109s have improved so much sailing as, in effect, a one design fleet that they hoover up all the IRC prizes. I presume that there will still be one race, scored 3 times.
  
  As to splits: They will always be arbitrary, may not be unfair. If the OA announces splits too long in advance then boats may be reconfigured to gain a (perceived) advantage: often by a wish to be the fastest boat in a fleet. If the OA announces the splits too late there may be a perception that there is an attempt to advantage one or more boats. If a boat can convince the PC that a fleet split could make the boat's series score significantly worse by that split, then there may be a case for redress. The time limit for such a request is as soon as reasonably possible after the relevant information is available. The OA might consider adding a time limit for such requests in the NoR.
  Gordon Davies Yesterday 13:15
• Can a boat break RRS 2 while breaking RRS 23.1?
  'overthinking' vs 'misthinking'
  
  As a Moderator of the forum, I'd like to (again) discourage everyone from using those terms in replies to others.
  
  There is no reason to characterize someone else's post or thought process as an over/under amount of thought.  If you disagree and want to make a counterpoint, make it directly. 
  
  The person characterizing others as such risks insulting the recipient of the characterization and that risks stifling participation on the forum. 
  Angelo Guarino Yesterday 12:51
• CONFLICT OF INTEREST RRS 63.3 (a) (1)
  Hi John - under the umbrella-recognised by:
  §  Philippines Sailing Association (‘PSA’), as a permanent resident (‘SRRV’) of the Philippines: https://www.facebook.com/SailingPilipinas/

  §  Ocean Racing Club of Philippines (‘ORCP’) / Signature Yacht Race Series: https://www.facebook.com/groups/7266489670032513

  §  For my ongoing ‘Judge in Training’ program: for each and every race series (for past 2-seasons), am under the auspices and supervision of Chief Judge, ‘Leonard Chin’ MYS, and at times helped by IJ/OJ ‘Mark Pryke’ AUS. I follow the 
  
  

  Adhere to World Sailing Judges Manual, and Code of Conduct for World Sailing Race Officials: chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.sailing.org/tools/documents/WorldSailingRaceOfficialCodeofConduct-%5b20776%5d.pdf
  
  

  For my sailing program: yacht ‘ALLUSIVE’ / ‘ALLUSIVE Youth Race Team’, now flying the ‘RNZYS’ colours – with their senior coach, ‘James Russell’ regularly coming to Philippines to race with and mentor the youth team. 
  
  
  John Quirk Yesterday 11:03

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