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  • Thanks for the great comments and inputs - I am of course in a different time zone here in Philippines - hence my belated replies.
    My thought behind the post, and as I am of course progressively reading through all WS documents as part of my IJ-IT process, was: it is quite a usual function in other sectors for and to have that express ability to appoint by a given panel, and to fluidize Heartng requests and/or Hearings - adjourn one, while being investigated and to hear another in the meantime (do speciliazed leg-work for the PC) - , or the PC may see a cross-protest pattern emerging (eg Rule 2 etc). I do appreciate that Rul 69 is of the more egregious variety and has a uniquely higher standard of proof etc but  other Rules like Rule 2 also have serious implications as well (with a slightly lower standard of proof bar) or there might be conflict between what the boat is saying and the RO is saying etc - or the boat and RO is saying the same thing but 'somehting just doesn't add up'.. Perhaps the matter is one of a techincal nature - but not sufficiently so for a full Technical Committee to be formed etc (eg the Xmas Tree  thread on the Rules Forum recently).

    The readings I have gone through, and found on this particular matter, are:
    Review Investigator Appointed 04 Jan 2025
    RRS 2025-2028:
    69.2 Action by a Protest Committee
    (d) When an investigator is appointed, all relevant information gathered by the investigator
    N4.3 Prior to a hearing, the hearing panel, to the extent practically possible, shall not act as an investigator of any allegations made under rule 69.
    NOT A DEFINED TERM – INVESTIGATOR
    61.1 Requesting or Considering Redress
    (a) A boat may request redress.
    The Case Book for 2025 – 2028:
    NO REFERENCE FOUND
    Protest Committee Guidelines 2025:
    NO REFERENCE FOUND
    Judges Manual January 2025:
    D.2.8 Appointing an Investigator, rule 69 allegations
    G.2.5 Appointing an Investigator, Rules 69.2(c) and (d)
    D.2.8 Appointing an Investigator, rule 69 allegations
    G.2.5 Appointing an Investigator, Rules 69.2(c) and (d)
    ·        If possible, the investigator should be familiar with the procedures of rule 69.
    ·        The investigator is expected to interview separately the parties, the person or persons who reported the incident, witnesses and any other person who might help with the case. The investigator must keep a record of all the evidence obtained from all sources. The record may be in writing or as audio recordings of the interviews.
    Note: Major international events have different procedures set by the World Sailing Code of Ethics. The Code addresses the appointment and role of the investigator (known as the Event Disciplinary Investigation Officer)
    World Sailing Code of Conduct for World Sailing Race Officials:
    NO REFERENCE FOUND
    Judicial Board Rules of Procedure Appeals & Reviews of Other Decisions by World Sailing:
    NO REFERENCE FOUND
    World Sailing Racing Rules Question and Answer Service Q&A
    NO REFERENCE FOUND

    Today 02:03
  • The Hystericals play their own game though. Didn't they eschew RRS for a long time? A class can permit poling out spinnaker clews in Class Rules/SIs if it so desires.
    But I think the innovation about Buckland/Bethwaite's kites was not the concept of an asymmettric sail on a pole, which was common enough, but that it was a sail set on a bowsprit with a loose luff like a spinnaker, not a taut luff like the old school sails tended to be.
    Yesterday 16:10
  • Angelo et al, for my example, more-or-less comporting with your scenario, I took the initial question to be one of 'match racing' (eg couple of F40s), and  thereof, the 'order of precedence'  under defined term APPENDICES; as such APPENDIX C takes precedence. Further noting that, the zone (C2.4is two boat lengths radius - and while a minium of 3.5mtr to 4mtr gate length is not unkown in match racing (from mark to gate mark (Xmas tree - marked with an X)) I have myself seen it down to and navigated through 2mtrs - equalling the zone radius (enhanced tactical maneuvering - for more skilled matched boats). Classically, PE - seeing SR as row, would simply deaccelerate somewhat and 'chase the stern quarter' of SR around in same arc (no breaches of rules and 'X' is not a continuing obstruction.
    Yesterday 02:42
  • HAPPY NEW YEAR !!!
    The RRoS Forum is so nice !!!
    THANKS SO MUCH TO ALL MEMBERS !!

    Cata
    from Argentina
    Fri 02:13
  • Thanks Ben....
    Wed 04:07

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