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  • I don't think there's a problem with invalidating a SI.

    I think that Mike is making a rather elegant point about RRS 63.5(c).

    The condition for RRS 63.5(c) to apply at all is that 'there is a conflict between ... two or more rules that must be resolved before a decision can be made'/

    If that trigger works, then 'the protest committee shall apply the rule that it believes will provide the fairest result for all boats affected'

    If there is another redress hearing where similar circumstances apply, then the protest committee is likely to make the same decision as before, but in different circumstances, even concerning the same NOR/SI, the trigger may not work, or the fairest result for all boats affected may be different, so the decision will be different.
    Today 01:11
  • Ben ... I think you had it nailed with the simple observation, and that is ..

    In mark-room, the term proper course only has one function, and that is a test condition of whether or not a boat's MR includes room to sail  to the mark.  That's all. 

    I think the confusion also comes in that def: MR previously stated a boat's MR included room to pass or round as necessary to sail the course.  I think people commonly replaced the phrase "as necessary to sail the course" with "proper course" in their minds.  That was a mistake, as they were different.

    But that said, that phrase is no longer in the rule, and the proposed inclusion of proper course in the new def: MR did not make it.

    So proper course in def: MR is a "test, apply and forget" modality. 

    In this OP, with this specific geometry, Blue's PC is to sail close to the left gate.  Therefore her MR includes room to sail to the mark on its proper side.  Though we do not have updated Case 75 yet, this portion of def:MR did not change. Assuming Case 75 does not change that portion of the discussion, Blue's MR is a corridor directly to the mark from the edge of the zone to proper side of the mark. 

    Yellow is in a position when she reaches the zone to provide that corridor, so she needs to maneuver promptly to do so, as soon as her obligation comes into existence. 
    Fri 13:17
  • Yes - "virtual" is a pretty lame word.

    I was struggling with the word 'signal' used in the definition. In general / nautical English a signal is a man-made visual or aural communication to mark a time, event or state. 

    How then can 'nothing' be a signal?  Even 'deeming' or' taking it to be' are a little loose. I thought about 'pseudo'. But yes, I agree.  'Virtual' doesn't really work.

    For fixed timings, I've seen it all. Exact start times listed, times offset from the first start and even just watch for your flags on the day. Agree with postponement issues, but with 21st technology it gets easier to recalculate and disseminate new times on the fly. 

    I guess the main point I have is that persuit style of starts changes a great deal of RRS26.  That can't be avoided. 

    Cheers. 



  • And the starboard rounding comparison (the lazy author version)

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    Tue 13:54
  • Paul just informed me that if you highlight a text selection before hitting the reply button, the reply will include the highlighted text along with the bookmark-link to the replied-to comment. 

    Try it out! 
    Tue 12:33

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