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The following four Cases and Appeals define what is not appropriate.
WS Case 72 – Discussion of the word ‘flag’. (rule 60.2(a)(1))
RYA Case 2001/13 – A glove cannot be a protest flag. When the display of a protest flag is required but not complied with, a protestee’s objection at the start of a hearing to the validity of the protest is to be upheld even if the protestee must have been well aware of the intention to protest. (rule 60.2(a)(1))
US Appeal 66 – A 2-inch by 8-inch protest flag on a 40-foot boat is not of sufficient size or of suitable proportions to be “conspicuously displayed.” (rule 60.2(a)(1))
Sail Canada Appeal 63 – For boats greater in length than 6 metres, a protest flag must be perceived to be a flag. The flag must be displayed at the first reasonable opportunity. For a fully-crewed boat, compelling evidence would be required to justify display within minutes, rather than seconds of an incident. Failure to meet these requirements will render a protest invalid. (rule 60.2(a)(1))Mark Townsend Today 18:12 -
Time to re-read RRS 11 and the definition of keep clear, plus RRS 14.
Go for it.
KC(a) - not met.
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KC(b) - met/not determined?
=Did not keep clear.
R14 - insufficient distance was the cause.
Notes:
1. Some people wrongly believe that if KC(b) is met it's enough to say W kept clear. However KC(a) must also be met. The two are connected with 'and'. KC(a) always applies, overlapped or not. KC(b) only applies when overlapped. My issue is not with KC(b). It's immaterial if KC(a) is not met.
I'm saying that KC(a) was not met.
2. Dropping the sheet is never a problem if the distance is sufficient between the boats. Insufficient distance caused 'dropping the sheet' to be problematic. Insufficient distance caused the contact. Not dropping the sheet.
3. KC(a) - Think of 'need to take avoiding action' as the trigger here. (See above.)
(W failed to keep clear of L, as L was able to sail her course but had need to take avoiding action while doing so.
In fact, to resolve that need to take avoiding action, L would have had to bear away to increse the distance between the boats. So effectively, she could not 'sail her course without a continuous need to take avoiding action'.)Benjamin Harding Yesterday 01:57 -
Thanks so much, Mark. It's good to have these when racing outside the US, in order to have more credibility.Al Sargent Fri 21:11
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Thank you Paul for the change. And thank you all for the helpful suggestions.Richard Reitmeyer Fri 01:24
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We have had this come up a few times at our club and have defined the winner of the trophy/prize/money as the person who entered the boat and paid the entry fee.
- A Club enters a boat, and the boat wins the prize, the club takes the prize.
- A skipper enters a boat, and the boat wins the skipper takes the prize.
- A sponsor enters a boat, and the boat wins the sponsor takes the prize. etc
It is a good idea to set this out in NOR so that it is clear, especially when there is a large sum of money riding on the prize.Anthony Howes Thu 16:41