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  • Tim,

    I am trying to find out at what point we loose each other.

    It looks to me that you find that only PE is at the obstruction and then apply rule 19 only to PE, but I am not sure.

    Can you point out when you start to disagree:
    1. Is the tree an obstrucion -> Yes, definition obstruction
    2. When does rule 19 kicks in -> When the boats are at the obstruction (19.1)
    3. Are both boats at the obstruction -> Yes since the course of PE is influenced by the obstruction, both boats are at the obstruction (case 150 q&a 1)
    4. Who can choose -> SE since she is ROW, so she can make the choice (19.2.a)
    5. What is the consequence of her choice -> they are overlapped, so she has to give room between her and the obstruction (19.2.b)
    6. Did she gave that room -> No

    For me the 'choice' that PE makes, is not the choice under 19.2.a.  She just wants to use the room between SE and the obstruction.






    Today 08:40
  • US Sailing  1.x - Rule 60.4(a)(2) is changed as follows: (2) if it alleges a breach of a rule of Part 2 or rule 31 and is from a boat that was not involved in, and did not see, the incident, or.
    Aren't the two apostrophes  (after "in" and "see")  redundant (or could be open to further debate as to whether the two criterion are co-joined or separate)? 
    Today 02:00
  • I'm not sure that the recent revisions involving hull have been an improvement. We have the situation where bowsprit doesn't count for over the line or hull length, but does count for overlap. And ERS isn't that helpful when it comes to hull length. If you take a modern 18 or other similar craft there's a nominally vertical stem, but a tube projecting from that, with bracing structure both beneath and to each side. Throroughly part of the hull. OK, count it as bow sprit. Maybe. But in other classes you have exactly the same, but a solid construction. Look at these two. Where, in ERS terms is the bow on each, and how on earth do you tell who is over if you are sighting a busy startline? 
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    Yesterday 13:25
  • Very practical method Alan - and 'refreshing' (for the routine ones I have PC experience in, we just did the corection calcs within ourselves - this case a major one) - for ourselves, easy enough to submit to the PC, when national level racing, as we always log all such baseline performance & tracking data from the onset of every race (and event YB Tracker always used etc).

    Yesterday 00:15
  • Gary, the issue is not whether the spinnaker is asymmetric or not. It is about the attachment of the pole to the sheet or clew of the spinnaker (RRS 55.3).

    Old sailors might say 'one clew of the sail must fly free'.

    In your 18 footer illustration, the tack of the spinnaker is on the pole, however complicated the guying/bracing arrangement of the pole may be, but the clew and the sheet are not attached to anything exerting outward pressure.
    Fri 23:14

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