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• Mark-Room and Room to Pass an Obstruction who wins.
  85 or so comments on this, and the best we have is, "They both must give room to each other.  Who ever doesn't gets pinged."
  
  When are we going to admit defeat and just call this a bug in the rules?  There is currently no acceptable hierarchy to which boats can sail safely and fairly.
  
  It is dangerous for both to try and fit through the gap together.  So, either the mark-room boat misses the mark, or the obstruction boat has to sail around the obstruction (or be 2nd place).  Both are 'unfair'.
  
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  I've given up with trying to make the rules work for the result we want.
  
  As I see it, either the rules must specify an unfair priority (and we must live with it) or they must close the gap between the mark and the obstruction, creating a continuous obstruction around which both boats have to sail.
  
  Here's one idea...
  
  Continuing Obstruction   An obstruction is a continuing obstruction when the boat with the shortest hull referred to in the rule using the term will pass alongside it for at least three of her hull lengths. [A continuing obstruction is also formed by a mark and an obstruction and space between them when the gap between them is only wide enough for one boat to fit through.]
  
  

  

  Benjamin Harding Today 05:03
• Appointment of an Investigator
  That’s fair enough too of course thanks Jim…
  
  

  On your final point, as I read it - STEPS: 1. PC (shall have at least three members) considers allegation of a breach of rule 69.1(a) (PC shall consider & decide whether or not to call a hearing). 2. in considering, if PC needs more information for the decision to call a hearing, it shall consider appointing a person or persons to conduct an investigation (investigator s) produce ‘a report’ of sorts for PC, and shall be disclosed to the PC for their considerations), 3. Hearing Decided (a Rule 69 hearing shall not be combined with any other type of hearing): if the protest committee decides to call a hearing, all relevant information gathered by the investigator, favourable or unfavorable, shall also be disclosed to the parties.
  John Quirk Wed 08:33
• Rule 55.2 One Spinnaker Pole or Two?
  The Hystericals play their own game though. Didn't they eschew RRS for a long time? A class can permit poling out spinnaker clews in Class Rules/SIs if it so desires.
  But I think the innovation about Buckland/Bethwaite's kites was not the concept of an asymmettric sail on a pole, which was common enough, but that it was a sail set on a bowsprit with a loose luff like a spinnaker, not a taut luff like the old school sails tended to be.
  Jim Champ Sun 16:10
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