• Appointment of an Investigator
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  John Quirk Yesterday 17:44
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  Angelo Guarino Wed 13:37
• Mark-Room and Room to Pass an Obstruction who wins.
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  Mark Townsend Wed 00:28
• RRS 41 (c) OUTSIDE HELP and CASE 120 in Open Waters Racing
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  John Quirk 25-Dec-29 04:08
• Does a competitor "see the incident" if they see it on a video?
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  Mark Townsend 25-Dec-26 18:39

• Appointment of an Investigator
  Keep life and appendix T simple, do not complicate.
  
  My problems at events are time and jury resources, I could not cope with delaying investigations.
  Under 69 you have to, but the time itself poses a problem and for weekend events puts hearings after the prizegiveng. An investigator if not actually necessary it is a time thief.
  
  Generally, my problems are that lazy competitors are always wanting to opt out and ask you to protest or help them.
   If we did more they may claim redress saying we did not do enough. 
  
  They say rc had a video have you got it _ no your job
  You saw it, you that is PC should protest, no your job.
  If we step outside, this is a self policing sport, we will be asked to put in protests find witnesses, and then how independent can we be seen to be.
  
  No an investigator when ready under 69, but not always necessary. 
  
  Let the parties produce their witnesses and evidence, we find facts, but if we cannot we could refer our problem back to the parties for more evidence. This is similar to what happens on appeal when additional facts are required
  Michael Butterfield Today 10:50
• Rule 55.2 One Spinnaker Pole or Two?
  The Hystericals play their own game though. Didn't they eschew RRS for a long time? A class can permit poling out spinnaker clews in Class Rules/SIs if it so desires.
  But I think the innovation about Buckland/Bethwaite's kites was not the concept of an asymmettric sail on a pole, which was common enough, but that it was a sail set on a bowsprit with a loose luff like a spinnaker, not a taut luff like the old school sails tended to be.
  Jim Champ Yesterday 16:10
• Mark-Room and Room to Pass an Obstruction who wins.
  Angelo et al, for my example, more-or-less comporting with your scenario, I took the initial question to be one of 'match racing' (eg couple of F40s), and  thereof, the 'order of precedence'  under defined term APPENDICES; as such APPENDIX C takes precedence. Further noting that, the zone (C2.4) is two boat lengths radius - and while a minium of 3.5mtr to 4mtr gate length is not unkown in match racing (from mark to gate mark (Xmas tree - marked with an X)) I have myself seen it down to and navigated through 2mtrs - equalling the zone radius (enhanced tactical maneuvering - for more skilled matched boats). Classically, PE - seeing SR as row, would simply deaccelerate somewhat and 'chase the stern quarter' of SR around in same arc (no breaches of rules and 'X' is not a continuing obstruction.
  John Quirk Yesterday 02:42
• Happy New Year to our Forum Friends!
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  Catalan Benaros Fri 02:13
• Does a competitor "see the incident" if they see it on a video?
  Thanks Ben....
  John Quirk Wed 04:07

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