Rule 18 and Room at the Mark
Mark room at the leeward finsih line. ( II )
"Mark room at the leeward finish line ( I )" was so interesting, that i have another case.
Is Red the winner ?
Is Red the winner ?
In Position N°1 rule 17 is off
Created: 20-Feb-11 23:23
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Again, it all seems moot, as green is not impeded from passing the mark.
Red and Green are overlapped from #1 until [just before] #6, irrespective of the side their mains are on, as they are both > 90deg to the TW.
At that point Green could gybe and claim a direct course to the mark.
Proving it, however, is an altogether different matter.
Dear Boris, what you say is correct, but is not easy for me to do a perfect drawing with the program, so i use photoshop too.
Watch it with zoom
No problems :)
I just wanted to say (to Philip Hubbell) that the boom is not part of the hull, so the Red is not in the zone at pos. 3.
And second - May Red steer higher that so called "proper course" (being the outside finish mark)
Right now this turns out as forcing a carry-over, avoiding the zone ..... coming from behind ( rule 17 - limited rights...)
I have not looked it up and fully analysed it - but my gut-feel says there are 2 things wrong with the behaviour of Red.
And second - May Red steer higher that so called "proper course" (being the outside finish mark)
Right now this turns out as forcing a carry-over, avoiding the zone ..... coming from behind ( rule 17 - limited rights...)
I have not looked it up and fully analysed it - but my gut-feel says there are 2 things wrong with the behaviour of Red.
Just checked it - RED is wrong when steering above her Proper Course and hence lifting Green like in the drawing ! RULE 17 - Boats on same course and overlapped.
17 ON THE SAME TACK; PROPER COURSE
If a boat clear astern becomes overlapped within two of her hull lengths to leeward of a boat on the same tack, she shall not sail above her proper course while they remain on the same tack and
overlapped within that distance, unless in doing so she promptly sails astern of the other boat. This rule does not apply if the overlap begins while the windward boat is required by rule 13 to keep clear.
Proper Course A course a boat would sail to finish as soon as possible in the absence of the other boats referred to in the rule using the term. A boat has no proper course before her starting signal.
No Bruce, they are not overlapped.
This is a perfect example of having more options at your disposal by knowing the rules.