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So if leeward is not entitled to room to tack and is DSQ for asking. Windward boat must respond and if they do not they break 20.1
If they are not approaching to start (lets say this is 3 minutes before the start) then it becomes more interesting. Rule 20 does apply. It is a mark (see the def'n of mark) and Green is fetching it. 20.1 says that the Blue should not hail, 20.2(b) says that Green has to respond to the illegal hail.
So Why must Windward boat respond ?
I think we all agree that the hail for room to tack by leeward is improper - but I suggest that it is appropriate for windward to respect the 'invalid' hail and respond under R 20, and then protest Leeward. The alternative of windward ignoring the hail is the possibility that leeward collides with the committee boat.
John
I don't agree that characterising RRS 20 as a 'safety rule' is helpful, and whether or not it is a 'safety rule' should have no effect on how it is applied: all rules are equal.
When RRS 20 applies, it is almost always possible for the hailing boat to avoid the obstruction either by gybing or tacking behind the hailed boat, where the hailing boat first luffs and slows, to herself gain room to tack. The diagram in this scenario is a good example: Blue can readily bear away slightly and pass the committee vessel in safety.
I think RRS 20 is best conceived of as a rule that facilitates boats manoeuvering at an obstruction in a tactically orderly way, so that no boat gains or loses too much of an advantage.
A boat can't be fetching a mark if it does not yet have a required side. Until a boat is approaching the line to start, the RC boat does not have a required side.
So in the 3 minutes to go case, RRS 20 applies, Green must respond (and hasn't) and Blue breaks no rule.
In this case, green breaks rule 19.2(b)
We started with 2 boats on port ... running out of line at the RC end with 3 min's before the start. Given those circumstances, it seems to me that neither boat is approaching the line to start, which is the Part C preamble conditional test as well as the test which imparts a required side to the RC.
Now Catalan gives us a different scenario, with a P flag up and boats on startboard with the entire line in front to them. I don't think our conclusions are as obvious.
Assuming we have a 5 min sequence, this image can be anywhere from 4:00 min to 1:01 min before the start. Are we still comfortable with the same conclusions that RRS 19 and 20 apply at 4 min or 3 min? How about 1:01 min?
PS: 2025 Section C Preamble below:
So applying that same approach to the new preamble ...
Submission 013-23 (Rule 18 Definition Mark Room, Preamble to Section C, Rule 18) contained similar wording, but was only partially adopted.
013-23-Rule-18-Def-Mark-Room-Preamble-Part-C.pdf
A determinate start time of this time-span .. either the prep-signal or the "last minute" would make it clear.
This could also be clarified in a Case, where it could be stated that a boat is assumed to be approaching the line to start after her prep signal or in the last minute.
Using started creates a rules hole for those who continue sailing the course with a starting error.
FWIW, I think my language is more consistent with how we want the rule applied, such that a boat that approaches the line to start, leaves the mark astern but does not start correctly but continues sailing, still meets the criteria.
Maybe my wording above is different enough to try another bite at the apple.