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  • John,

    The way you are describing this seems to me to be unnecessarily complicating things.

    So, for the first 3 regattas, you have a protest committee with no dispensation from appeals.

    I think deliberately constituting a 1 judge protest committee is a very bad idea.  Among other things you are letting the OA off the hook for finding some local judges in training to get experience.

    I don't understand what you mean by 'an IJ online for any support required'.  If you have one judge in person at the venue and other judges available on line, you have a protest committee that can do hearings with some members on line.

    I have had quite a bit of success with one experienced judge at the venue doing Arbitration:  in my experience that can dispose of most protests, and it buys you a bit of time to get an on line hearing organised.

    What you don't have is properly constituted International Jury Panels in accordance with RRS N12.4(b), so a party that is dissatisfied with the local committee's decision is not entitled to a hearing by the full International Jury.  What has to happen is an aggrieved party has to appeal to the MNA in accordance with RRS 70 and Appendix R, and the MNA then needs to appoint the IJ on your fully constituted International Jury to decide the Appeal.
    Today 12:10
  • John re: "certainty over fairness"

    Yea .. I don't buy that.  It sows confusion to the racers .. putting on them to ignore what they read in the NOR. 

    If the SI is the preferred language and the OA doesn't want to issue an NOR mod, note that the SI changes the NOR (like any other rule change), thus calling competitor's attention to the fact that they might have read something different in the NOR.. but now it is changed in the SI. 
    Today 12:09
  • Ok .. it seems to me in this case, the clew of the sail is sheeted to a boom which qualifies under 55.3(c).   55.3(c) is an "exception" to the main text and limits of 55.3's 1st sentence. 

    Now that 55.3's first sentence doesn't apply ... where in the rules does it say you can't exert a forward force against a boom with a stick .. inside or outside the shear line?

    Such a stick is neither a spin nor whisker pole, 
    Other Spar Types:
    (i) SPINNAKER POLE
    A spar attached to the mast spar and connected to a spinnaker guy.
    (ii) WHISKER POLE
    A spar attached to the mast spar and connected to a headsail clew.

    The device that is exerting the outward pressure on the sail is the 55.3(c)-allowed boom .. not the "stick" in question.  The stick in question is exerting a forward pressure on the boom .. not an outward pressure on the sheet or clew. 

    I can't find a rule which limits the stick as long as the stick is applying pressure only to a 55.3(c)- qualifying boom. 
    Today 02:56
  • Is there a reason a finishing window couldn’t be based on the first boats elapsed time plus x%.
    I.e. 50% = first boat 60 minutes, last boat 90 minutes, or first boat 120 minutes, last boat 180 minutes. 
    The % could be chosen based on the handicap spread of the division - tighter fleet, smaller %, wider fleet = bigger %. 
    I think this would solve an issue for my club. We currently only have a time limit of 2 hours for 1st then 3 hours for last. Our winter series can be either cans or harbour courses. The 2-3 hours is really for the longer harbour courses. We’ve had short cans courses lately due to light winds. The first boat has taken 40 minutes, the rest of the fleet done by 50, but one boat who should be mid fleet is off the pace, and took 100 minutes. Wore a bit thin with the start boat, who then got back in the dark, which then delayed prize giving for everyone else, but didn’t break the time limit rule. However, a 30 minute window wouldn’t be big enough on a 2 hour race, but 1 hour is excessive on a 30 minute race (we had one race which only took 20-30 minutes) . Can it be flexible as suggested? Or must we resort to the complicated (for or RO’s) formula / app to calculate? I can’t see anything in the rules. 
    Yesterday 08:53
  • Check out Australian Rules Football, Ben. It has everything you suggest including 50m penalties (on a really big field of play); big scores; different scores for a goal (6pts) versus an 'almost'-goal (ie. a 'behind' worth 1pt); and more. It also involves full contact at full speed without the benefit of body armour which makes absolutely no sense to Americans.

    BTW, the Irish play Gaelic Football which is close to Aussie Rules, so they sort of "get it". However, they also play 'hurling' which is like "field hockey" played at head height. And for the North Americans here, just imagine Ice Hockey played at head height with no helmets or body armour. In my view the Irish are "feckin eejits" if I was to use their slang.
    Yesterday 00:28
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