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    1. Advice to sailors about rules by a judge outside of a protest that the judge will be hearing is always ok.  We do it all the time.  We give rules presentations and write articles.  At regattas we invite competitors to come and talk to us about rules.
    2. Just because a judge builds a rules app, or an AI script, doesn't somehow make the assistance in that app inappropriate.

    Paul was concerned about:

    1. has the appearance of favoritism, 
    2. is not fair to the responding party as the help wasn't reciprocal, 

    As for helping a sailor meet the [minimum] requirements for a valid protest, that's help that is [presumably] boign to be provided to any protesting boat equally.  The situation is asymmetrical:  there is no corresponding help that an be provided to the protestee at this stage.

    3. appears to provide the competitor with the thought process of the judge.

    It's up to the judge to not let the conversation get that far.

    When I introduce myself at a Competitors' Briefing I sometimes say

    "Please feel free to come up and talk to me about rules, that is unless it is 20 minutes before you are going to be talking to me about those rules across the table in the protest room."
    Today 23:05
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    Today 18:40
  • John,
    Thank you for providing the link to the article posted by Graeme Hayward and originally written by Mary Pera.  It is sad that neither of them are with us any more.  
    Yesterday 02:56
  • I think I probably hint at it in my OP, but I think some of these shifts are fully appropriate, while others are maybe appropriate, even if potentially at odds with the phrasing in Case 103:
    1. IMO, age restrictions of the fleet mathematically shift the level of competency we're looking for. A 10yo will not be at the same level as a 25yo.
    2. same here, except I think the only difference between a 20yo and an adult is the level of athleticism expected... we should expect a high level of athleticism in racing where all sailors are college-aged
    3. same again for me. If we limit boats to 2 people, then we must also force them to give each other extra room for a douse. Indeed, 2 people is BY DEFINITION appropriate for the boat, as no more are allowed in that event!!!! To say otherwise would be to force collisions at leeward marks!
    4. Same. If you are required to have no more than two people, then you are only required to have two competent people, and room needs to account for that.
    5. Trickier, but easy to handle. I wouldn't go to the group average, but I would definitely want at least a percentage of the participants to be capable of sailing within the definition of room... otherwise what are we doing?
    6. Yeah. I think we need to hold championship sailors to a higher standard. If you're going to show up and compete for a high level national or world championship, then you're agreeing that you can sail above the level of "competent".
    7. same as #6

    TLDR:
    • IMO it is appropriate within the statements from Case 103 to adjust "competent crew" to fit age and other crew restrictions as required by the event/fleet/SI's, etc. (statements 1-4)
    • I also feel it makes sense to do so for statements 5-7, but I'm not sure that syncs up with Case 103.


    Mon 19:08
  • Will enable this today...
    Mon 16:15
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