• 1.1 Helping Those in Danger and Redress Race Time Adjustment
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  John Quirk Today 18:28
• Appointment of an Investigator
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• Mark-Room and Room to Pass an Obstruction who wins.
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• RRS 41 (c) OUTSIDE HELP and CASE 120 in Open Waters Racing
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  John Quirk 25-Dec-29 04:08

• Mark-Room and Room to Pass an Obstruction who wins.
  "Polar Express must commit to passing on one side or the other of the obstruction at position 2 so she is at the obstruction and rule 19 applies."
  Sure, BUT under 19.2.a she's not the ROW  boat and therefore under 19.2a, is not given the right to choose. Her only choice is a keep clear as windward boat, and obligated to giving mark room. Because she luffed up, she didn't break 11, or 18, and in so doing avoided the obstruction in the only course direction available once she was AT her obstruction under 19.2.a. 
  
  Why doesn't this resolve the issue?
  Tim OConnell Today 22:35
• 1.1 Helping Those in Danger and Redress Race Time Adjustment
  Let's assume we reasonably know from the form/reports before the hearing that you're likely to be due redress for actions under RRS 1.1 and we're going to get that testimony. My next steps are as follows:
  
  1. Engage with the best navigator I can find (I've generally engaged someone before the race to do this kind of work for me on a complex case. For simple stuff, I've used ChartedSails and my own skills). 
  2. Get your track data from the race tracker, your onboard instruments, etc. For instance, if YellowBrick is the tracker, you can sometimes get data from YB with 1-minute resolution when the race is only publicly showing 15-minute resolution. Most onboard navigation systems can export the boat's track. 
  3. Get the relevant GRIBS together for the times in question. 
  4. See if there are any award(s) we should be nominating the boat to receive. 
  
  -Now, we get the navigator to essentially pull together that once you resumed sailing, your percentage of time vs the "ideal track" with the GRIB after the incident was xx%. For this instance, let's assume you sailed at 92% of the ideal theoretical track after the incident. 
  -Apply the GRIB and generate a route for you would have sailed if you hadn't stopped to help. This will get you to a predicted elapsed for the duration of the race. 
  -Apply the 92% of polar to the remaining course had you not stopped and grant redress that equates to the finish time you've figured out. 
  -Apply your rating and score the race. 
  
  Important notes for the decision:
  1. If eligible for an award (Arthur B Hansen Rescue Medal in the US) ensure the facts include all the relevant information for that award. For instance, from memory we put things like the wind speed, sea state, light conditions, etc. that we may not have otherwise had in the facts found. 
  2. State that the boat and her crew are commended for their actions as a decision. 
  3. In the decision, state that the PC or OA will be nominating the boat for the relevant award. 
  
  
  
  John Porter Today 19:19
• "Rules Governing the Duration of Flag D Display Ashore Before Start"
  Sorry but neither the SI nor the competitors meeting is a right place to explain flags (with pictures), point from the SI or rules. Each participant is responsible for this by themselves. Maybe a friendly reminder to the competitors where to find further informations is a good practise.
  Andreas Knospe Today 13:00
• Appointment of an Investigator
  That’s fair enough too of course thanks Jim…
  
  

  On your final point, as I read it - STEPS: 1. PC (shall have at least three members) considers allegation of a breach of rule 69.1(a) (PC shall consider & decide whether or not to call a hearing). 2. in considering, if PC needs more information for the decision to call a hearing, it shall consider appointing a person or persons to conduct an investigation (investigator s) produce ‘a report’ of sorts for PC, and shall be disclosed to the PC for their considerations), 3. Hearing Decided (a Rule 69 hearing shall not be combined with any other type of hearing): if the protest committee decides to call a hearing, all relevant information gathered by the investigator, favourable or unfavorable, shall also be disclosed to the parties.
  John Quirk Wed 08:33
• Rule 55.2 One Spinnaker Pole or Two?
  The Hystericals play their own game though. Didn't they eschew RRS for a long time? A class can permit poling out spinnaker clews in Class Rules/SIs if it so desires.
  But I think the innovation about Buckland/Bethwaite's kites was not the concept of an asymmettric sail on a pole, which was common enough, but that it was a sail set on a bowsprit with a loose luff like a spinnaker, not a taut luff like the old school sails tended to be.
  Jim Champ Sun 16:10

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