• When is an entry an entry?
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  Paul Kimmens Yesterday 14:17
• Fix for RRS 60.4(a)(2) – Validity
  7 Comments
  Paul Zupan Sun 20:12
• Measurement Basis of Hull Length or Hull Lengths and Associated Rules
  5 Comments
  John Quirk Sat 17:23
• 1.1 Helping Those in Danger and Redress Race Time Adjustment
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  John Quirk Fri 18:28
• Appointment of an Investigator
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  John Quirk 26-Jan-04 17:44

• When is an entry an entry?
  A boat that has not complied with all the requirements of the organising authority is not entered.
  
  It might be useful to have a list of boats who have met some to the requirements but not all (with the list of requirements that have not been met. However, I would argue that this is an 'Incomplete Entry' or 'Not Yet Entered. However, by demonstrating that they intend to participate in the event, under RRS 4(a) they have agreed to accept the rules. This may be of importance if the boat goes racing without completing the entry requirements.
  
  A  boat does not have to enter the event to be subject to the rules. RRS4 (a) specifically states 'By participating or intending to participate in an events', not 'entered'
  We have had incidents here in which boats entered for the club racing series do not enter the club regatta, but come to the starting area, start, sail the course and finish. In other words, they are participating in the event. Therefore, the rules of Part 2 apply between this non-entered boat and other boats participating in the event.
  Gordon Davies Today 15:43
• Fix for RRS 60.4(a)(2) – Validity
  Gordon re:"I would prefer to avoid a 'neither' 'nor' wording for the sake of the many non-native English speakers"
  
  .. and for us English speakers too!!.  The use of the double-negative logic is mind-numbing.  
  Angelo Guarino Today 15:40
• Mark-Room and Room to Pass an Obstruction who wins.
  OK then ... let's imagine a capsized boat situation and how we might think of 19.2(b)'s "unless clause".
  
  Facts Found: (pls excuse the present tense)

  1. 3 boats, Speedy, Tailing, and Windy, are on a beat to windward on the starboard layline of a windward mark to be rounded to port. 
  2. Speedy enters the zone first with one BL separation clear-ahead of both Tailing and Windy. 
  3. Tailing (leeward) and Windy (windward) enter the zone overlapped bow to bow.  
  4. Speedy takes a high line around the mark and capsizes directly to windward of the mark. 
  5. The space between the capsized Speedy and the mark is approximately 1-1/2 boat-widths. 
  6. Tailing continues sailing her current course and sails between Speedy and the mark. 
  7. Windy luffs head-to-wind and using her momentum is able to "shoot" to windward and sail around Speedy. 
  8. No contact between boats or the mark

  
  Now consider the "unless-clause" in 19.2(b).   The obstruction did not exist when the "overlap began" between Tailing and Windy. 
  
  I think this could be a practical example in support of the "at the obstruction" interpretation of "since the overlap began" (when the overlap was establish and maintained prior to being at the obstruction). 
  Angelo Guarino Today 15:12
• Measurement Basis of Hull Length or Hull Lengths and Associated Rules
  I'm not sure that the recent revisions involving hull have been an improvement. We have the situation where bowsprit doesn't count for over the line or hull length, but does count for overlap. And ERS isn't that helpful when it comes to hull length. If you take a modern 18 or other similar craft there's a nominally vertical stem, but a tube projecting from that, with bracing structure both beneath and to each side. Throroughly part of the hull. OK, count it as bow sprit. Maybe. But in other classes you have exactly the same, but a solid construction. Look at these two. Where, in ERS terms is the bow on each, and how on earth do you tell who is over if you are sighting a busy startline? 

  

  Jim Champ Sun 13:25
• 1.1 Helping Those in Danger and Redress Race Time Adjustment
  Very practical method Alan - and 'refreshing' (for the routine ones I have PC experience in, we just did the corection calcs within ourselves - this case a major one) - for ourselves, easy enough to submit to the PC, when national level racing, as we always log all such baseline performance & tracking data from the onset of every race (and event YB Tracker always used etc).
  
  
  John Quirk Sun 00:15

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