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Marco Cimarosti
Nationality: Italy
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  • National Race Officer
How it is possible to show the witness in the hearing schedule? Thank you.
OK, thank you, but now it is possible to see the witnesses only if "create a protest" and not if "create a decison"
Created: 19-Aug-10 13:15

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Paul Zupan
Nationality: United States of America
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It is not currently possible.  Perhaps if there were a compelling reason, we should add it.  Anyone else use the hearing schedule for notification of witnesses?
Created: 19-Aug-10 13:45
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Baptiste Verniest
Nationality: France
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  • Regional Race Officer
  • International Judge
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RRS L16.3 states 
Notices will be posted no later than 30 minutes after the protest time limit to inform competitors of hearings in which they are parties or named as witnesses.
It is not "compelling" but a rather good reason to do it, even though it is the responsibility of parties to make sure their witnesses attend the hearing.
Created: 19-Aug-10 20:59
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Paul Zupan
Nationality: United States of America
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I added witnesses to the public schedules.  Any witnesses included on the hearing request will be shown on the schedule.
Created: 19-Aug-11 03:50
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Deepak Singh Dikhit
Nationality: India
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  • National Judge
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I have tried in in one event.  Just a couple of columns need be added to hearing schedule notice - Protestor, Protestee, Witness.
Created: 19-Aug-11 06:49
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Deepak Singh Dikhit
Nationality: India
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  • National Judge
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But, this was a "physical/paper" notice displayed on Regatta Notice Board, not through RRS.org
Created: 19-Aug-11 06:53
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Baptiste Verniest
Nationality: France
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  • Regional Umpire
  • Regional Race Officer
  • International Judge
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Paul, does it work only if the witness is stated in a "protest" and not in a "decision"?
Created: 19-Aug-11 09:03
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Marco Cimarosti
Nationality: Italy
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  • National Judge
  • National Race Officer
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OK, thank you, but now it is possible to see the witnesses in the hearing shedule only if "create a protest" and not if "create a decision". I think better to have both possibilities because it is permitted to open a hearing by "create a decision" without to open "create a protest".
Created: 19-Aug-11 12:55
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Paul Zupan
Nationality: United States of America
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  • International Judge
  • National Judge
  • Regional Umpire
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The thought was that the witnesses indicated on the Hearing Decision would only be those that appeared during the hearing.  But I changed the logic a bit.  When a Hearing Request is submitted with witnesses indicated, it now pre-populates the witnesses in the Hearing Decision. The judges can then edit that as they like (add or remove) and that data is what is shown n the Hearing Schedule.  Then during the hearing, the witnesses indicated can be edited to show who actually did give testimony. This change loads up the witness field with some hidden logic, but I think it reflects how judges actually work, so it should be intuitive.  Marco, thanks for the feedback on this.  I think it adds to the utility and communicates better with the competitors.
Created: 19-Aug-11 16:09
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Deepak Singh Dikhit
Nationality: India
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  • National Judge
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This for sure is a good change, Paul.
Created: 19-Aug-12 05:15
Sen Yamaoka
Nationality: Japan
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  • National Umpire
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In conclusion I'd like to confirm the followings.
Witnesses are not required to attend the hearing by any rules, are they?
RRS L16.3 don't have a compelling force.  
Therefore even If protest notices are posted, the witnesses can refuse to attend the hearing. 
Created: 19-Aug-12 06:34
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Paul Zupan
Nationality: United States of America
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  • International Judge
  • National Judge
  • Regional Umpire
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Well, I would respond that none of the parties or the witnesses are required to attend a hearing.  I'm sure that's not what you mean though. The jury can of course proceed with a hearing without a party or any parties present for that matter.  The possibility of a penalty as a result of the hearing is the only "compelling force" that would compel a party to attend.  And generally, a witness has nothing at stake, so there is nothing compelling them to attend other than their desire to contribute to the hearing.  But there is always the chance the jury may find the witness broke a rule, in which case they witness would then be named as a party.  But that would start the whole notice process over again so it doesn't really compel a witness to attend.  So to answer your question,  no, witnesses are not required to attend even if they are notified on the schedule.  But then, neither are the parties.
Created: 19-Aug-12 15:47
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